Add more clients #51
Add more clients #51
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aTalk, blabber.im, BombusMod, Cheogram, Kontalk, Moxxy, Quicksy and Stork IM.
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Consider: Conv6ations Snikket See #27 |
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| "<a href=\"https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.yaxim.androidclient\"><img src=\"assets/yaxim.svg\" height=\"60\">yaxim</a>", | |||
| "<a href=\"https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.atalk.android\"><img src=\"assets/atalk.png\" height=\"60\">aTalk</a>", | |||
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I'd like to have only links to F-Droid to all clients.
@ge0rg what do you think?
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| "<a href=\"https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.siacs.conversations\"><img src=\"assets/conversations.svg\" height=\"60\">Conversations</a>", | ||
| "<a href=\"https://f-droid.org/packages/org.kontalk/\"><img src=\"assets/kontalk.png\" height=\"60\">Kontalk</a>", |
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Is Kontalk even developed anymore? 2020? https://github.com/kontalk/androidclient/releases
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No longer developed
Cheogram might be better since it's on par with upstream |
Remove Bruno, Kontalk and Xabber
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As mentioned in #27 snikket needs an invite or an existing xmpp account.
Only forks of conversations has good compliance on android. aTalk, BombusMod and Moxxy we will have to collect compliance data before we recommend. Quicksy has same compliance as conversations, as both are built from the same source code. |
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For aTalk there is a request for collecting compliance data cmeng-git/atalk-android#197 |
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This is about ease of use for newcomers, so Google Play is the way to go. If a user can install F-Droid, they will figure out installing an XMPP client without this landing page. Also we are only recommending clients that are actually well-maintained and compliant. |
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I think Moxxy is a good addition to the list.
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I never heard of it, and it's not on Google Play. |
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Or F-Droid... |
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Indeed.
It's on IzzyOnDroid F-Droid Repository
https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/org.moxxy.moxxyv2
Repository
https://codeberg.org/moxxy/moxxyv2
Homepage
https://moxxy.org/
From @PapaTutuWawa
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if you read the release notes you'll get a clearer picture of how far away still is https://codeberg.org/moxxy/moxxy/releases |
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It's fine.
We now know of Moxxy.
The Moxxy developer now knows of Modern XMPP and easy-xmpp-invitation.
I guess Moxxy will be featured here next year if not later this year.
Patience...
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Newcomers will see "you need to pay to Play" and they'll go-a-way, easily. |
Good point. I suggest to add a guide or a link to a guide to install F-Droid with a short "intro" about its benefits. |
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A simple "These apps might be available on F-Droid as well" or smth |
Instead of a link, we can make it to be a tooltip which will pop div with a short paragraph which will be displayed upon hover. |
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A greater issue is the tendency of "Play" store to (1) ban, (2) block, (3) censor, (4) hide and (5) remove software entries, and also (6) rename URL addresses of software related to XMPP. Case 1Conversations
https://gultsch.social/@daniel/111933922710829462 I do wonder why F-Droid version also offers "address book integration and public channel discovery" and the one on "Play" does not. I suppose it is because they do not want XMPP to appeal "normal people". Case 2monocles
Do the people working on "Play" server not know how to use URL redirection? Case 3blabber.im
https://kanoa.de/@blabber/108289026302640506 blabber.im is not a spyware, and is also listed at F-Droid. By linking to "Play" store, we are harming ourselves in both the short and long terms. I urge you and highly recommend you to drop any link to that "Play" catalogue! If a server admin wants to add links that are not from F-Droid, then it is possible by modifying the source files. It would best appropriate and wiser - to all of us - to provide a default selection from the F-Droid catalogue which has no spywares/trackers and does not load over 1MB to 10MB for each page load. |
Because Google wanted the dev to lie and say "we upload your contact list to our server" (this info is on the dev account from were you quoted, do read more there). Eg. Cheogram says that, but they don't do it, see https://jmp.chat blog posts Why is Google doing this? I doubt they care about a 100k downloads, 10k users app like Conversations... They just apply the same rules as to the 99% of other apps that access contacts and just upload the contacts... Oh, this one app does not? Lol |
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