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Plane: Smooth Consecutive Turns Support #26077
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Here's another option - implement it in Lua by basically writing this as an "aerobatic trick". Checkout the "Scripted Aerobatics" examples https://ardupilot.org/plane/docs/common-scripting-aerobatics.html. |
Do you actually want to program such moves with loiter turns, or if we were to do it automatically would what be better? It would be a big re-work, but we could update to use Dubins paths for FW navigation. |
I'd like to program such moves with loiter turns. I am willing to work on it as I did for the fractional loiter turn support, and the changes should be similar net benefits to Missions by expanding the use cases of loiter turns to either A) align more fully with the mavlink spec, B) be more flexible and less hardcoded (heading check patch), or C) both (A) and (B). My desire for this issue was detail out this problem I have been noticing in SITL and see if my proposed fixes seem sane and reasonable to the problem (and would be approved). perhaps we can chat at the next dev call? |
One problem I found while trying this out is that because we scale the loiter radius with altitude its very hard to manually program such missions if your above sea level because the GCS's shown radius's are not the what we will fly. This also highlights a bug in the original break out code because it assumes we will fly at the un-corrected radius. I wonder if this is why we needed those fudge factors and increasing error bound in the first place.... In any case I have done a alternate fix here: https://github.com/IamPete1/ardupilot/tree/loiter_heading_linedup |
gotcha. appreciate that flag. I will take a look at your branch, thank you! |
This PR appears to resolve this issue (represents the branch linked above that Pete suggested). tagging for visibility into the smooth turn issues this was geared, in part, at addressing. |
For what it's worth, I disable that altitude radius thing because we've implemented it wrong. Its meant to keep us in our flight envelope but it should be enforcing a minimum, not always scaling. Not being able to actually control your aircraft path is kind of a party foul. |
I agree. |
I'm super interested this, or a more generic capability for a trajectory-following controller following 3D dubins curves. This could be used in #2380 , and allow a companion computer to generate more intelligent paths than what was shown possible here: #25722 Would you all consider just implementing a trajectory-following controller? I'm happy to help and start in 2D to make it more feasible. |
We can use the L1 controller for following arbitrary paths, its in the original paper, but we have only implemented straight lines and circles. So there are two steps, the first is to add support for arbitrary paths to the L1 and then the second is to define that path. Once that is done this whole logic problem were trying to fix in #26102 is gone. We don't need to decide when to switch from circle "mode" to straight line "mode" in L1, we just give it the full path. |
Chatted at the most recent dev call - going to put some notes here for reference: Sounds like there is some excitement about potential future dubins' planning/path support for ArduPlane but it also sounds like we can move ahead with #26102 to unblock this issue in the absence of more complex fixes short-term as it is a net benefit in improving use/usage of the current primitives. |
closing. after extensive testing: #26102 has resolved the issue. |
Feature request
Background
I have already worked on the merged #25873 to unblock this work - I will be discussing from a developer perspective. This issue focuses mainly on not really a bug, but a feature gap of LOITER_TURNs in ArduPlane, namely smooth consecutive turns. I am willing to tackle most/some of the work - this issue is to flesh out and consolidate the discussions we have had during last few Dev Calls.
Summary of Desired Feature
I want to fly (using a normal ArduPilot Mission/Mission Commands) paths with consecutive curves.
Let's take something like this relatively simple curve (flying left to right) that is kinematically possible to fly on a normal Plane and which consists of a straight (starting at blue) into a quarter circle, then into another quarter circle, then into a straight (exit at green). I believe this is impossible using ArduPilot Mission Commands (LOITER_TURNS, Waypoints) in a Mission on ArduPlane as it stands today - and in fact all precise consecutive turns are impossible, see "Proposed Developer Diagnosis of Issue".
Impossibility Explanation (using Primitives)
To fly this path, you might try to upload something like the below with ArduPilot Primitives.
Flying this path from left->right:
But it doesn't seem to work - why? (note: above proposed path maps to waypoints 3-7)
a. Exit criteria is
verify_loiter_heading
for both branches of this function! of theverify_loiter_turns
function (Note: this means LOITER_TURNS has heading required in all cases!)b. verify_loiter_heading calls isHeadingLinedUp with the next location
c. isHeadingLinedUp hits logic that breaks out of the loiter immediately - since the "next" waypoint, or Item 5 is within the loiter radius + 5% (it is on the loiter radius)
Great. Shouldn’t place waypoints after a loiter within the loiter radius + 5%, got it. What if I just remove that waypoint then?
Doesn't work either! we
isHeadingLinedUp
with the center(!) of the second LOITER_TURN.Proposed Developer Diagnosis of Issue
isHeadingLinedUp is required in all cases for a LOITER_TURN, and is relatively inflexible - it does not allow for waypoints to be on the radius of the circle + 5%, that one otherwise might be able to use as exit criteria for a discrete turn.
Even if you operate under the world of fractional turns that recently merged, you wouldn't be able to chain two quarter LOITER_TURNS together to implement the desired smooth consecutive turn path, because the isHeadingLinedUp check is required in all cases. you would finish a quarter of the turn, and then try to turn to get heading with the center of the next turn, then go back to the second turn, then get heading with the next point, instead of: finish quarter of the first turn, switch to second turn cleanly, finish quarter of second turn, continue on path. I can demonstrate this in the below comments if anybody would like to see in SITL.
Describe the solution you'd like
I would propose that both elements of this should be fixed, though I would note either should resolve the issue, albeit at different levels:
ardupilot/ArduPlane/mode_loiter.cpp
Lines 61 to 82 in 8c72304
Describe alternatives you've considered
See description of two options above, I consider both of these to be valid approaches that should both land on master. I would think landing the already implemented patch PR before the likely more intensive "implement heading required" makes sense.
Edited after Lua Script comment: I believe this is a limitation or feature gap of our Mission Commands primitives that can be improved and provide much more flexibility/intuitiveness to the average user instead of having to script something. I believe flying a smooth, flat curve into another curve shouldn't need to fall in the acrobatics realm and can be achieved with the existing vanilla primitives.
Phew. That was long. I have given this a deal of thought, and I would appreciate any thoughts, points of discussion, or other ideas for solutions.
Platform
[ ] All
[ ] AntennaTracker
[ ] Copter
[X] Plane
[ ] Rover
[ ] Submarine
Additional context
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