Still alive?

[wetneb]

Hi!

I just discovered this tool, that's nice! But it looks like it doesn't have much data in it…
https://tools.wmflabs.org/cite-o-meter/?doip=10.1016
https://tools.wmflabs.org/cite-o-meter/?doip=10.15847
Is it still alive? If not, what should be used instead as formatter URL for https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1662?

Thanks!

[prototyperspective]

Seems to be dead. Could it be revived (@Daniel-Mietchen @dartar) or rebuilt in javascript?

If you're looking for something similar (and maybe this could be used here) see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Journals_cited_by_Wikipedia

There's various issues that limit its usefulness such as the data being polluted (depending on what you're trying to analyze with for example often-reused/bot-added references featured in templates or references missing DOIs and URLs). It can still be very interesting and useful (and the code could get modified for whatever you're investigating). If it ever works again it could be linked at the page above.

[Daniel-Mietchen]

@wetneb Sorry for the few years of delay — saw this only now. Still no good formatter URL for the DOI prefix, but we could have Scholia recognize DOI prefixes and then redirect to the appropriate publisher or other organization, just as we do with DOIs proper. I'll open a ticket for that.

@prototyperspective It could probably be rebuilt, but nowadays, the architecture would probably be completely different. What I could imagine is to put the data from those stats above into a dedicated Wikibase and visualizing them via Scholia.

[prototyperspective]

Very good idea! Strangely I didn't think of Scholia. It would be very useful and most appropriate there, another perfect use-case that can be connected to Scholia as the frontend/system. There it could be integrated in the most relevant way.

I'm not sure if a Wikibase is needed but it may need some changes to the code or rehashing of its data so that for example you can see

• the most popular journals for a scientific field that is also a Wikipedia category and
• stats of changes over time and/or other things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Journals_cited_by_Wikipedia/Popular1 only show journals most popular in Wikipedia overall but this isn't really useful (not just because of the "polluted" data issue that I mentioned), it would more interesting to see how it looks like for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Agriculture or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Types_of_neoplasia for example and I don't know if the data available there currently suffices for this (it could get improved later on after it's embedded in a more general way).

Will you create an issue at Scholia (if so please link it here or link to here)?