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buff python #33306

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@pheenty pheenty commented Nov 14, 2024

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Python now costs only 4 tc, but is discounted rarer (as Cobra) and comes with regular non-AP rounds.
Non-AP speedloaders are added to the uplink, costing 2 TC.
AP speedloaders are unaffected, and you can buy Python, unload it, then buy and load an AP speedloader to get the current Python for 7 TC total.

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  1. Python's use is very, very niche. Even if you need to kill a secoff, Viper provides the same DPS and is two times cheaper.
  2. Just my personal opinion, but traitors lack some... coolness? Viper is not cool, it's just a pistol, stealthy Cobra is negatively cool, Python is cool yet useless (see reason 1), esword is cool but it's a melee weapon.

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  • tweak: Python now costs only 4 TC, but comes with regular rounds.
  • add: Regular magnum speedloaders are added to the uplink, costing 2 TC.

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explain how this is a buff

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@TheShuEd TheShuEd added Size: Very Small T: Balance Change Type: Balance changes through direct value changes, or changes to mechanics that affect it A: Combat Area: Combat features and changes, balancing, feel A: Roundflow/Antag Area: Roundflow - "What happens in the game", including antagonist roles and their capabilities and removed S: Untriaged Status: Indicates an item has not been triaged and doesn't have appropriate labels. labels Nov 14, 2024
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pheenty commented Nov 14, 2024

explain how this is a buff

If you want AP python, you can buy it for 4 tc and ap rounds for 3 tc, so 7 tc total for it being the same as now with 6 extra regular rounds

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If you want AP python, you can buy it for 4 tc and ap rounds for 3 tc, so 7 tc total for it being the same as now with 6 extra regular rounds

just because you get to spend the same TC for two things doesnt mean its a buff. explain how making it have less DPS and locking the greater DPS bullets behind spending the same TC for a normal version is a buff?

if you want to make it useful, increase its fire speed. thats the main reasons it's rarely used

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pheenty commented Nov 14, 2024

If you want AP python, you can buy it for 4 tc and ap rounds for 3 tc, so 7 tc total for it being the same as now with 6 extra regular rounds

just because you get to spend the same TC for two things doesnt mean its a buff. explain how making it have less DPS and locking the greater DPS bullets behind spending the same TC for a normal version is a buff?

if you want to make it useful, increase its fire speed. thats the main reasons it's rarely used

AP bullets do LESS damage than regular ones (26 vs 35). With that change, an unarmored target will die to just 3 bullets (instead of 4), and that would cost 2 times less

@TheShuEd TheShuEd added P3: Standard Priority: Default priority for repository items. D3: Low Difficulty: Some codebase knowledge required. size/XS Denotes a PR that changes 0-9 lines. size/S Denotes a PR that changes 10-99 lines. and removed Size: Very Small size/XS Denotes a PR that changes 0-9 lines. labels Nov 14, 2024
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TheShuEd commented Nov 14, 2024

Label gaming yupiii
(Im sorry)

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