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General Terms of Use #25
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thank you!
@wlandau the proposed legal jurisdiction is that of England and Wales. This is generally fine for similar contractual documents where operations are global. Please let us know if this is an issue for you. |
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Great start, @shikokuchuo!
As you may have noticed, my comments borrow a lot from https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/github-terms/github-terms-of-service.
This Terms of Use document seems to cover "Users" as defined at https://r-multiverse.org/governance.html#user. I think we will somehow want to cover Contributors and potentially package maintainers as well. https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/acceptable-use-policies has a lot of great stuff, and it covers some of the scariest failure modes. I'm thinking we could consider subsuming all that stuff under "Terms of Use" and potentially even supersede our current code of conduct.
@wlandau do take a look at the changes I've made. Can iterate further if you have other comments. |
That's fine.
Thanks for the changes. From #25 (comment), there is a lot to cover under an Acceptable Use document. However, for that to work, I think these Terms needs to make responsibility and ownership clear. I like these paragraphs from GitHub's Terms of Service:
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I've taken the jurisdiction out of [ ]s. The wording of C is already incorporated into this document (lines 38-39, which are specific examples of a broader catch-all in line 35). As for D, this is applicable for GitHub, but for us the users are not uploading their own content - rather this will be covered for contributors in the Acceptable Use Policy. |
The Acceptable Use Policy is now drafted so these should be read in conjunction with each other. Due to timing, this document will go into effect before that one - but let me know if anyone has any further comments. |
I like the added definitions. I would add a couple more. GitHub's terms of service defines the audience:
It would be also good to define "package". We mean it in terms of "R package" as defined in https://cran.r-project.org/doc/FAQ/R-exts.html. After those changes, I am fine to merge this. |
Another thing, actually: we will have "Terms of Use" and "Acceptable Use", which sound similar because of the word "Use". Maybe this one can be "Terms of Service" and define "Service" in the definitions section? |
I've added a definition for "you" and "your" that works for us.
I think the term is unambiguous in the context of a repository. I do not want to define it too narrowly here, as in any case we tend to use "packages and services" together.
Let me know if you're ok with the above. |
Terms of Use is probably more accurate as Term of Service is more geared towards sites with user accounts that are providing a service. For us, it's mostly people using the repository to download packages. |
Would that not count as a service? If you like "Terms of Use", what about "Acceptable Contribution" for the other one? |
Thanks. I also like the list format you use.
Would this be broad enough?
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On second thought, "Terms of Service" is narrower than "Terms of Use" because the latter covers more than just services. Likewise, "Use" is more general than "Contribution". So I am fine with the current names. |
Please see 4affc31 where I've added definitions along those lines. The one for package must be self-contained otherwise it incorporates the linked document by reference and that's never a good idea. Please double-check where I've capitalised all mentions of "Package" and "Services" that you think the definition is fine in each respect. Thanks. |
Added a correction in 8f4ca7e - you see how easy it is to get something wrong! |
Closes r-multiverse/help#82.
Designed to apply to all Users, protecting Admins / Moderators / Contributors (collectively the 'Contributors').
The legal jurisdiction is still in [ ]s. I am comfortable with using the law of England and Wales as it operates under a case law system with ample (commercial) precedent, hence predictability. But I'd be open to researching the implications of using US law etc. if that is to be preferred.
Comments welcome.