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Bikeshedding a la mode "It's like a finger pointing away to the moon. Do not concentrate on the finger or you will miss all of the heavenly glory!" Bruce Lee.

The technology is cool, and that's what this project is about, THE WAY is nameless, as they say. Words obfuscate and obstruct, so why not embrace that reality by maintaining a nomenclature of quirky wizard/witch vibes, shrouded in a light and funky aloofness? I think packaging up what aims to be a key to international freedom in a somewhat silly package is like a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down. Funny names are an invisibility cloak.

If it weren't explicitly useful (in my opinion) to name things unconventionally, and if there was not already a magical-theme happening within the project, it would not be worth pursuing. But as we have already stepped in it, so to speak, there are many things we can do to "unBrand" the project in an effective way.

We obviously don't want to cross the line into copyright infringement. There are plenty of historical and wizardly themes to choos from that are not strictly inspired by modern novels.

Some discussion:

GRIN (GOBLINS' Righteous Intergalactic Network)

Council Name

What do we call the "technomity" aka the Council of Grin, given it certainly doesn't matter, and there are so many fun witchy things to choose from? This group will be cited by name when future upgrades, discussions, and decisions arise. Some ideas:

  • The GAMUT (GOBLINs Adhocratic Magical Undertakings Thing) (Who runs the GAMUT? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/run_the_gamut) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_(assembly) also referencet to supreme wizard court in harry potter, the Wizengamot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhocracy
  • Prefects or præfectus/praefectus/praefectii- leadership, appear in harry potter books as upperclassmen.
  • Spontaneous Order of GOBLINS
  • GOBLINS (GRIN's Own Beaurocracy of Laborers, Improvers, Nurturers and Scientists or GRIN's Own Beurocracy of Learned Integrators Negotiators and Scientists)
  • Ministry of Mages
  • Coven of Alchemical Liason Maintainance (CALM... keep CALM and carry wands).
  • The Spontaneous Order of Unknown Leaders (SOUL, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_order#Markets )
  • The Stygmergic Syzygy
  • Institute of Broom and Wand Design
  • Magical Undertakings of Money (MUMs the word!)
  • P.O.W.O.W. (which could stand for The POWOW Order of Wizards Ongoing Work… which has that nice nested GNU thing… and actually we’ve already been calling it the powow… plus the connotations for proof of work, POW, and pain, OW… but is probably incensitive to native americans)
  • Sobornost (“the combination of freedom and unity of many persons on the basis of their common love for the same absolute values.”, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobornost)
  • Synod (church council)
  • Conventicle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventicle)
  • Conciliabulum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conciliabulum)
  • navem civitatis - ship of state (platos coinage of philosopher king)
  • technicorum magorum™ - technocracy of magi
  • Ministry of Magi (MOM said!)
  • Convention of Wizards (COW goes MU (Mimblewimble Undertakings))
  • Chamber of Intermagical Affairs, aka the CIA?
  • Assembly of Seers? Seer Association? Seers, Robust & Company?

Wallet/Miner Names

These are all totally free to use for any efforts.

  • Wink
  • Nod
  • Smirk

Mascot Names

Currency name [Solved]

In what units do we measure the grin currency?

  • grins (milli, micro, etc).
  • Winks and Nods?

Currency Symbol

Discussion: https://www.grin-forum.org/t/currency-symbol-other-bs/484

  • we could do something absolutely evil and comandeer the symbol for generic currency... ¤ ... ¤333 .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_sign_(typography) it is the universal ISO symbol for money............................... i feel like i've peekend inside pandora's box. GOODNESS I like this one. It's like a glitch in the matrix.... and very philosophicala symbolic.

Roman Czyborra writes in his Good ole' ASCII that "the socialist countries managed to substitute the international currency sign ¤ for ASCII's capitalist dollar sign $ in the the first international reference version ISO-646-IRV". However, the international currency symbol ¤ was proposed for inclusion in the international standard character code in place of the dollar or pound sign by the Italian delegation to the CCITT, not by the socialist countries. In a later vote, Italy, Portugal, Switzerland, and the USSR favored the use of the ¤ character; Canada, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden, and the United Kingdom preferred to standardize the $ and £ signs. Sources: CCITT Working Group on Alphabets, October 6-9, 1964, CBI 67, box 3, folder 3; ISO TC 97/SC 2 and CCITT/GM ALP joint meeting, April 26-28, 1966, NMAH 310, box 5.

and now some other resources I've found... and some symbols that stand out. There are lots of options and I am 100% of the belief that the perfect one can jump out at us like a mystical epiphany, and that bikeshedding isn't as arduous and arbitrary as it always seems to be.

From this document: http://bora.uib.no/bitstream/handle/1956/10699/MUFI-Alphabetic-4-0.pdf?sequence=9&isAllowed=y

  •  &grlig; EAD0 PUA-1 LATIN SMALL LIGATURE GR doesnt show

These are very good old English... very in the style of. http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Insular_G

  • ᵹ &gins; 1D79 PhonExt LATIN SMALL LETTER INSULAR G

  • Ᵹ &Gins; A77D LatExtD LATIN CAPITAL LETTER INSULAR G

  • ꝿ &ginsturn; A77F LatExtD LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED INSULAR G

  • Ꝿ &Ginsturn; A77E LatExtD LATIN CAPITAL LETTER TURNED INSULAR G

  • ꟿ &M5leg; A7FF LatExtD LATIN EPIGRAPHIC LETTER ARCHAIC M 199ꟿ aka ꟿ aka mimblewimble. that one is confusing and cool

  • ø ø 00F8 Lat1Suppl LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH STROKE

  • Ø Ø 00D8 Lat1Suppl LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE 243Ø for a piece of bread a symbolic cut-through... the $ sign is pretty abstract, ours needn't be a G at all. looks like a zero though, not great.

  • ʉ &ubar; 0289 IPAExt LATIN SMALL LETTER U BAR 777ʉ its like the S with a line through it $, but its a u, kind of like a little smile with a cuthru

  • ỽ &vwelsh; 1EFD LatExtAdd LATIN SMALL LETTER MIDDLE-WELSH V looks kind of like a G when rendered differently

  • ˣ &xmod; 02E3 SpModLet MODIFIER LETTER SMALL X 420ˣ to pay the bills

  • ◌͜◌ &combdblbrevebl; 035C CombDiaMk COMBINING DOUBLE BREVE BELOW this one not sure if it shows but its like a fallen over right parenthesis... looks like a grin... pretty awesome! literally you write the number of grin syou have and underline it with a little grin, ha!

  • ∞ ∞ 221E MathOp INFINITY 42∞ worth of wine please!

  • ⏑ &metrshort; 23D1 MiscTech METRICAL BREVE its the cutest little grin 55⏑

  •  &metrbrevedblac; F717 PUA-10 METRICAL SYMBOL BREVE WITH DOUBLE doesnt show but its a smiley

  • The spesmilo character, called spesmilsigno in Esperanto (like monero's use of esperanto) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesmilo looks like an S with a little m in it.

  • The mill or ( ₥ ) an m with a cuthru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mill_(currency)

  • of course unicode alchemical symbols would be appropriate too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemical_symbol https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F700.pdf 500🝐 looks like a magic wand

  • ☺ its just a little unicode smiley face, this would be perfect

  • ♾ its like an infinity symbol in a circle.. looks kind of like a smiley... and is the symbol for acid free p aper I need 699♾! Grin, that acid free paper currency!!! also means PERMANENT PAPER... which is a good symbol for a cashlike currency probably.

  • ☹ this one is hilarious, its like a big sad face

  • ☄ looks like a harry potter golden snitch 900☄ please!

now from https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2600.pdf

  • ⚡like harry potters lightning bolt

  • ⛀ i think thats supposed to be a coin

  • ♒ mw looking

  • ⚇ a partial smiley

  • ☹☺.. first is a sad face second is a smiley... for some reason the sad one is bigger

  • 🙂... slightly smiling face... that one renders really well * 🙁 slightly frowning

  • ☻ ooh this one is good... its the dark version of the smiley

  • ☯ yin yang... mimble wimble

  • ⌚ a little watch... time is money 1⌚ /second

  • ⌛ hourglas... time is still money... 9,000⌛ please!

  • 🌞 **wow! sun with face... that one is pretty good.**

feeling more and more like picking something simple like the letter G is the wrong choice. what fun to have so much creative freedom...and people may be writing it on checks and the tip line of receipts!

  • ☠ skull and cross bones... theres a grin in there somewhere

  • 🕱 another render, supposed to be b lack

  • ࿊ a tibetan symbol

  • 😶 *WOW symbol for face without a mouth!!!!!!

  • ⚝ a little bit wizardly.. the pentagram... ⛥
    ⛤ just a white rectangle ▭ 900▭

  • ⧞ infinity negated with a vertical bar

  • ⚲ neuter symbol

  • ⚿ squared key

  • ⛑ helmet

  • ⛓ those are supposed to be chains... that's kind of cool you know, blockchain.

  • ⚵ looks like a magic wand

some more here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Alchemical_symbols though they are not easily accessible unicode

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mercury_symbols mercury is a communication symbol... money is a very pure form of communication

some good ones in there. almost entirely sure that using something as ancient as a latin letter would be a missed opportunity. why wouldnt the currency of the future have an emoji as a symbol????? I mean of course it would. We are desinging the ultimate cash for the digital age, it should look like a product of the internet in every way right?

someone on reddit said the MW-Eyed smiley logo looks too much like a meme... but that is what we are making right, an infectious meme. currency itself is a meme!

will never forgive myself now if we don't pick something great.

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