New HIP: TXT Record Naming Standards #46

0xStefan · 2022-02-24T14:08:31Z

I created this HIP as recommended by @pinheadmz

I tried to keep it as simple as possible for the end-user and used only one-word TXT entries.

It's important to keep in mind, that we cannot verify any TXT entries that are submitted on-chain. Therefore the site owner or app has to do the heavy lifting.

This is really just a draft and I'm happy for any polite pushback.

HIP-xxxx.md

rithvikvibhu · 2022-02-27T13:25:49Z

One thing I'm curious about is how much space can be saved by using a single TXT instead of 1 TXT per field. Is it significant? Might need to look at how records are serialized.

HIP-xxxx.md

rithvikvibhu · 2022-02-28T13:59:08Z

Idea: a field called meta with value of a https url. The page must follow the same standard parsing of TXT fields, but since it's served by a website, it can be dynamic. Of course on chain records are possible, and preferred in cases, but with pointing to a website (secured by CA/DANE), it's possible to do a lot more things using existing field standards:

Not constrained to 512 bytes (blockchain dns size limit), also leaves more room for other records
listing price changes based on page views/time
dynamic wallet addresses (though there's HIP-2 for this)

Edit: continuing in a thread here: https://github.com/handshake-org/HIPs/pull/46/files#r815933617

Falci · 2022-02-28T14:18:22Z

Idea: a field called meta with value of a https url...

Kinda of .well-known directory, no?

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lukeburns · 2022-02-28T22:13:37Z

Is there a reason that this should be a HIP rather than a convention that e.g. Bob and Parking.Sinpapeles decide to both use? One worry I might have is conflicts with other protocols that just happen to use the same conventions, but aren't used the same way. OTOH, I could imagine some sort of standard like this being useful for interfacing with the other HIPs on name swaps or auctions in some way.

rithvikvibhu · 2022-03-03T15:19:45Z

Is there a reason that this should be a HIP rather than a convention that e.g. Bob and Parking.Sinpapeles decide to both use? One worry I might have is conflicts with other protocols that just happen to use the same conventions, but aren't used the same way.

Exactly why a standard now will help everyone use the same fields and formats. If Bob and PS decide on a convention that isn't standard, it makes it harder for others (ex: niami - run by this HIP author :p) to follow - and keep up with in case of updates.

HIPs are pretty lenient. From the README:

What is a HIP?
A Handshake Improvement Proposal is a technical document that attempts to standardize a feature or protocol extension across the Handshake ecosystem.

This is my updated proposal for the TXT Record Naming Standard for Domain Listings. I will create one more for Identity and one for NFT's. This will make it easier for discussions and to maintain the proposals.

Noxturnix · 2022-03-14T12:51:55Z

HIP-xxx.md

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+### <a id="avatar"></a> (3) Profile Attribute: Avatar
+
+The avatar attribute is optional. It enables a domain owner to provide an avatar for the domain. The expected value is a fully qualified URL that must start with http:// or https:// that points to an image file.


Is this limited to be only http:// and https:// hence the "must"?

I think this should also accept something like ftp:// or decentralized storage protocols like ipfs://, ipns://, sia://, ar:// or maybe anything that follows RFC3986 standard

Not sure about ftp://. When would you need that?
With the others I totally agree but would IMO only add them after they receive full support in most major browsers.

HIP-xxxx.md

Co-authored-by: Sirawit Thaya <[email protected]>

It just doesn't make sense. TL;DR Wallet TXT records are easier for the everyday user, but much harder for devs to implement. HIP-002 is easier for devs to implement but harder to set up for everyday users. See discussion here: https://discord.com/channels/822591034202521641/822591754477371443/956843184376401930

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pinheadmz · 2022-04-01T15:56:40Z

It might be worth considering interoperability with ENS: https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-634 either matching their spec or at least referncing it.

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pinheadmz · 2022-04-10T02:26:28Z

Is it on RFC spec to just use one TXT but multiple values?
TXT profile name=zip,state=CA,eyes=brown

0xStefan · 2022-04-11T05:14:50Z

Is it on RFC spec to just use one TXT but multiple values? TXT profile name=zip,state=CA,eyes=brown

I read through some specs and haven't seen such a pattern during my research

pinheadmz · 2022-04-11T16:56:05Z

Is it on RFC spec to just use one TXT but multiple values? TXT profile name=zip,state=CA,eyes=brown

I read through some specs and haven't seen such a pattern during my research

OK, might be worht discussing / considering since it will save blockchain / urkel tree space

Falci · 2022-05-27T14:02:37Z

Assigning the HIP-0010

Falci · 2022-05-30T17:03:25Z

Sorry, I didn't realise this PR has 2 HIPs together.
For the second: Assigning the HIP-0013

- HIP number added - New title to better distinguish HIP-10 and HIP-13 - Added optional symbol => for minimum price offer

- New title to better distinguish between HIP10 and HIP13 - Add HIP number

- Renamed 'social' to 'service' as recommended by [EIP-634](https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-634) - Used the reverse dot notation as the service key for better compatibility and flexibility - Added recommended implementation via semicolon delimiter - Changed phone format to [E.164](https://www.twilio.com/docs/glossary/what-e164)

0xStefan · 2022-05-31T14:35:58Z

@pinheadmz
I updated HIP-0010 and HIP-0013 to contain a recommended implementation with semicolon separated key/value pairs. Think this was a great idea you had.
I also used some ideas from EIP-634 to make this HIP better (E.164 phone format; Services instead of Social networks; Reverse dot notation as service key).

0xStefan · 2022-06-05T08:49:07Z

Created a HIP-10 (and soon HIP-02/12/13) Helper tool: fourhands ✋🖖🤚🖐

0xStefan · 2022-06-07T12:40:28Z

HIP-10 Domain Listings are now implemented on niami/ if anyone reviewing this PR wants to test it.

rithvikvibhu · 2022-07-12T12:45:02Z

HIP-0013.md

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+**TXT** `profile <attribute name>=<attribute value>`
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+There are currently five supported attributes: **[email](#email)**, **[phone](#phone)**, **[avatar](#avatar)** and **[service](#service)**. All attributes are optional but at least one attribute needs to be present, for a Domain to count as a profile.


What are your thoughts on adding "name" to this list? Could be an individual's name or a company's.

rithvikvibhu · 2022-07-12T13:10:40Z

HIP-0013.md

+TXT profile service=<service-key username>
+```
+
+The service key is made up of a reverse dot notation for a namespace the service owns, ex: com.twitter, com.namebase, io.github. Service keys must contain at least one dot. So if a service is hosted on a Handshake TLD, the service key has to end with a dot.


Is this supposed to be io.keybase instead of io.github?

rithvikvibhu · 2022-07-12T13:13:02Z

HIP-0013.md

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+### <a id="avatar"></a> (3) Profile Attribute: Avatar
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+The avatar attribute is optional. It enables a domain owner to provide an avatar for the domain. The expected value is a fully qualified URL that must start with http:// or https:// that points to an image file.


I'm fine with this, but thoughts on mandatory https? Can't think of a reason why any website would be http-only, and as a standard, might be better to encourage secure sites.

rithvikvibhu · 2022-07-12T13:15:46Z

HIP-0013.md

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+## <a id="alt"></a> Recommended Implementation
+
+To save blockchain / urkel tree space it's encouraged to use only one TXT record for the profile. A semicolon is then used to seperate each `<attribute name>=<attribute value>` pair.


Is semicolon (the delimiter) prohibited as values? If no, are they supposed to be escaped? Maybe add a note somewhere.
Curious how your fourhands implementation handles it.

rithvikvibhu · 2022-07-12T13:18:23Z

HIP-0010.md

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+### <a id="url"></a> (2) Listing Attribute: URL (optional)
+
+The listing url attribute is optional. It enables a domain owner to provide a url, where visitors can find more information about the domain. It can also be used to point visitors to a parking website or a private marketplace. The expected value is a fully qualified URL that must start with http:// or https://.


same comment re: http from before/below

HDardenne · 2022-09-04T16:37:50Z

HIP-0010.md

+### Valid Listing Example with the semicolon delimiter
+
+```
+TXT listing price=>HNS 1000;url=https://www.learnmore.com/about/my/domain


Suggested change

TXT listing price=>HNS 1000;url=https://www.learnmore.com/about/my/domain

TXT listing price=HNS 1000;url=https://www.learnmore.com/about/my/domain

Falci · 2024-03-15T12:10:55Z

Forecasting some updates in the HIP-13, I'm wondering if we should split this PR in 2?

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Updated proposal for Domain Listings via TXT records

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This is my updated proposal for the TXT Record Naming Standard for Domain Listings. I will create one more for Identity and one for NFT's. This will make it easier for discussions and to maintain the proposals.

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		### <a id="avatar"></a> (3) Profile Attribute: Avatar

		The avatar attribute is optional. It enables a domain owner to provide an avatar for the domain. The expected value is a fully qualified URL that must start with http:// or https:// that points to an image file.


		TXT `profile <attribute name>=<attribute value>`

		There are currently five supported attributes: [email](#email), [phone](#phone), [avatar](#avatar) and [service](#service). All attributes are optional but at least one attribute needs to be present, for a Domain to count as a profile.


		## <a id="alt"></a> Recommended Implementation

		To save blockchain / urkel tree space it's encouraged to use only one TXT record for the profile. A semicolon is then used to seperate each `<attribute name>=<attribute value>` pair.


		### <a id="url"></a> (2) Listing Attribute: URL (optional)

		The listing url attribute is optional. It enables a domain owner to provide a url, where visitors can find more information about the domain. It can also be used to point visitors to a parking website or a private marketplace. The expected value is a fully qualified URL that must start with http:// or https://.

	TXT listing price=>HNS 1000;url=https://www.learnmore.com/about/my/domain
	TXT listing price=HNS 1000;url=https://www.learnmore.com/about/my/domain

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