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I have a couple concerns and suggestions ;-)
<meta name="description" content="We bring the awesome Git VCS to Windows"> | ||
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1"> | ||
<link rel="stylesheet" href="https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Open+Sans:300,400,700"> | ||
<link rel="stylesheet" href="css/pack.css"> |
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pack.css
is built by the Gruntfile.js
.
If we do not use that any longer, we might just as well do away with style.css
completely (rather than changing it to no effect).
We would then also need to drop grunt
and friends from the package.json
file.
But then, how can we ensure a common look between index.html
, governance-model.html
and requirements.html
(the latter two are generated from Markdown using the markdown-template.html
file).
In a similar vein, we render the Release Notes of Git for Windows using this script and this CSS, which is a copy-edited version of the css/style.css
file in this here repository. If we change the look of the home page, we will have to align the look of the release notes accordingly.
I'll re-iterate this to resolve your valid comments @dscho. |
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Thank you for working on this @prertik! I pushed this branch to my fork, re-set the Pages configuration to build from that branch, and see a nice, clean web page. It might actually be a little too clean, leaving quite a bit of empty, unused space: However, when I look at it at 800x600, it looks like this: And when I ask Screenfly how it would look on iPhone/iPad, it looks like this: I looked at a couple other mobile phone resolutions and it looks similar. Note the horizontal scrollbar, which I would really like to avoid. I also noticed that clicking on the menu button in the upper right does not pop up any menu. Finally: I would like to see this addressed:
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Also note that https://dscho.github.io/git-for-windows.github.io/#download-sdk needs to scroll the SDK download button/link into view. I refer to this a ton on the bug tracker. |
I fear that this might have something to do with: $ git grep navbar-toggler
index.html: class="navbar-toggler"><span class="navbar-toggler-icon"></span></button> There should probably be more hits than just this line. I would have imagined at least an entry in the |
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* Fix for navbar while on small device * Add version of git for windows available * Other minor UI fixes Signed-off-by: Pratik Karki <[email protected]>
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Hi @dscho! Please review when you have a few minutes. |
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Looks good overall! Had a few opinions on the logos and casing use.
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<h1 class="gittext lowercase"> | ||
Git<span>for Windows</span> | ||
</h1> |
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Having "Git for Windows" stylised as "git for windows" feels weird. It should probably be capitalised normally IMO.
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@mjcheetham I tried to keep true to the original design so the re-use.
@vtbassmatt, makes sense. Looks like I have to remain true to original font too.
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@prertik Ah, beat me to it. I was going to say, this matches the current Git for Windows homepage (and https://git-scm.com/):
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class="navbar-toggler"><span class="navbar-toggler-icon"></span></button> | ||
<div id="navbarSupportedContent" class="collapse navbar-collapse"> | ||
<ul class="navbar-nav ml-auto"> | ||
<li class="nav-item"><a style="font-weight:bold" href="https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/wiki/FAQ" |
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The "FAQ" link being bold and the others not, makes it stand out for the wrong reason.
Looks like "FAQ" is a category or label for the other links to the right, rather than being a link itself.
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FAQ is a link to Github's wiki page where FAQ content is. In the original design too, it was bold, so remaining true. We can tone down the boldness.
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Yes, let's remove the boldness. The original idea was to guide users to the FAQ, but I don't believe that it worked.
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I believe it's bold because it's an internal link, but the others are external. If you do want to un-bold it, you could use an icon indicator (like a box arrow) to show that the external links are external (and open in a new tab).
EDIT: they're all external links, you can ignore what I have written here 🙂
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IIRC I emboldened the link to provide an easy visual for those looking for the FAQs, and consequently the whole wiki, to find. I'd hate to loose the 'easy to find' aspect. Alternate designs that help folks find, and look up, all those FAQ & wiki items would be just as reasonable.
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I don't think that our strategy worked. The FAQ was not easy to find, neither was the wiki.
But maybe that's all okay, now that we have GitHub Discussions. It seems the StackOverflow-like format fits more people's needs than the wiki format.
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<div class="container"> | ||
<div class="row"> | ||
<div class="col-lg-6 order-2 order-lg-1"> | ||
<img src="img/gwindows_logo.png" alt="Git Logo" class="img-fluid"> |
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When the logo is large, or even just viewed on a HiDPI screen it looks blurry. We should probably use an SVG here so it's always crisp.
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<div class="col-sm-6 col-lg-4 mb-3"> | ||
<img src="img/gw1web_thumb.png" alt="Git BASH" class="img-other-logos"> | ||
<h3>Git BASH</h3> |
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The all-caps "BASH" here stands out, and looks odd. Although it stands for Bourn Again SHell, it's normally stylised as "Bash": https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
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<div class="container"> | ||
<div class="row"> | ||
<div class="col-md-6"> | ||
<span>Copyright © 2020 Johannes Schindelin and contributors. All rights reserved.</span> |
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2021?
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Legally kind of a grey zone (to be clear, I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice 😁.) Current practice at GitHub is to say simply "Copyright © Johannes Schindelin and contributors", dropping both the date and the "all rights reserved" text. I'm not sure how other companies/projects do it, nor what advice Johannes and contributors have received.
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what advice Johannes and contributors have received
I haven't received any, apart from what you just said. I am in favor of dropping the parts you suggested to drop.
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Sure, dropping these then.
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<nav class="navbar navbar-light navbar-expand-lg fixed-top shadow-sm bg-white"> | ||
<a href="index.html" class="navbar-brand"> | ||
<h1 class="gittext lowercase"> | ||
Git<span>for Windows</span> |
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Feels like the Git for Windows logo should also appear next to the title in the nav bar. Git for Windows doesn't really have a "wordart", only a logo and name. Should probably use the logo where we want to use the "Git for Windows" text as a title or wordart.
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<p>Please look at the <a href="https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/wiki/Technical-overview">technical | ||
overview</a> of the Git for Windows packaging and how to include your changes in your own custom | ||
installer.</p> | ||
<a name="download-sdk" /><a class="btn btn-outline-primary shadow mr-2" |
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Making this download button a btn-outline-primary
means it doesn't look like the other action buttons on the page. Probably would look better as just btn-primary
IMO.
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Counterpoint: it's good to have one clear call-to-action button and reduce the emphasis on other actions. I'd probably alter the "Issue tracker" button below to be outline, then there's exactly one color-forward button and the rest are muted.
edit: Whoops, I thought this comment was someplace else. My feedback is different so I'll put it in the right place.
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<a class="btn btn-primary shadow mr-2" href="https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/issues" | ||
target="_blank">Issue Tracker</a> | ||
<br> | ||
<img src="img/details_contribute.png" class="rounded float-left img-git-logo" alt="Git for Windows Logo"> |
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The "git SDK" image here looks.. weird. The drop shadow on the text almost has a blue tinge to it?
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Can't 👍 this one enough. Can we get a render of the Git SDK logo that's full-alpha so that it works on any background, maybe?
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<div class="col-md-6 col-md-offset-3 col-md-push-3"> | ||
<div class="text-right"> | ||
<p class="lead"> | ||
<h2>We bring the awesome <span class="gittext">Git</span> SCM to Windows</h2> |
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Since we're going to the trouble of making a change, could we consider dropping SCM
from the heading? Any of the following would be preferable:
- We bring Git to Windows
- We bring the power of Git to Windows
- Git + Windows = awesome
I know it's baked into the upstream Git domain name, but in my experience, few people use this term anymore. The Git homepage itself uses it only in a derisive way (emphasis mine):
Git is a free and open source distributed version control system designed to handle everything from small to very large projects with speed and efficiency.
Git is easy to learn and has a tiny footprint with lightning fast performance. It outclasses SCM tools like Subversion, CVS, Perforce, and ClearCase with features like cheap local branching, convenient staging areas, and multiple workflows.
</section> | ||
<section> | ||
<div class="container"> | ||
<h2>Tools & Features</h2> |
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I like that these now lay out side by side rather than stacked. However, the images aren't the same height, and so there's a "bunting" effect that isn't pleasing.
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For the record, I just spent an incredible 1h15m on re-generating the screenshots and on opening #33.
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<p>If you've noticed a bug or simply have an idea that you'd like to see become real, why not work on it? | ||
Bug reports and feature requests are typically submitted to the issue tracker on our GitHub repository. | ||
</p> | ||
<a class="btn btn-primary shadow mr-2" href="https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/issues" |
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I also don't understand why it's a btn-primary
when there's already a btn-primary
on the page. If a button remains, it should be btn-outline-primary
to reduce its emphasis (it's not the core CTA on the page).
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@vtbassmatt I agree but the question here. is if we are already providing an issue tracker like on a navbar like the FAQ and others, why keep a Bug Reports section on the website at all?
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@prertik that's a fine question! Looking at another friendly project, Django, I see that they have a header with "Community", "Code", and "Issues" explicitly separated. (This makes sense since they use a mailing list/IRC, GitHub, and some legacy bug tracker respectively.)
Then way down the page, in the sidebar, they use a very short section of the column to repeat their connections to community-oriented stuff.
I think we could probably live without the large paragraph here, if you're keen to remove it.
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Thanks for explaining! Okay, I'll try this and see how this looks.
@vtbassmatt, I agree with most of your well-reviewed comments but I do not agree with the "welcoming color" opinion. @dscho What's your opinion on this? |
I guess sticking with a variant of the blue theme would help with not completely tripping up Git for Windows users who expect a dark blue page. |
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Thanks for putting this together! These are mostly my initial impressions - after the other review feedback is addressed, I'm planning on giving it another (more fine-grained) look.
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<meta name="robots" content="all,follow"> | ||
<!-- Bootstrap CSS--> | ||
<link rel="stylesheet" href="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/twitter-bootstrap/4.5.3/css/bootstrap.min.css"> |
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<link rel="stylesheet" href="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/twitter-bootstrap/4.5.3/css/bootstrap.min.css"> | |
<link rel="stylesheet" href="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/bootstrap@4.6.1/dist/css/bootstrap.min.css" integrity="sha384-zCbKRCUGaJDkqS1kPbPd7TveP5iyJE0EjAuZQTgFLD2ylzuqKfdKlfG/eSrtxUkn" crossorigin="anonymous"> |
The recommended CDN by Bootstrap is jsDelivr/BootstrapCDN - was there a specific reason you went with Cloudflare? Also, regardless of the CDN used, please include the SRI hash. Both jsDelivr and Cloudflare have them available.
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Git<span>for Windows</span> | ||
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@prertik Ah, beat me to it. I was going to say, this matches the current Git for Windows homepage (and https://git-scm.com/):
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<script src="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/twitter-bootstrap/4.5.3/js/bootstrap.bundle.min.js"></script> |
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Same comment as before - should probably use jsDelivr for these (including JQuery), and include SRI hashes for each of them (especially being JS files).
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<script src="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/jquery/3.6.0/jquery.slim.min.js"></script> | ||
<script src="https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/twitter-bootstrap/4.5.3/js/bootstrap.bundle.min.js"></script> | ||
<script src="https://cdn.linearicons.com/free/1.0.0/svgembedder.min.js"></script> |
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Where is this used/why is it needed? I don't see any SVGs used here (although I could definitely be missing something).
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Oops, I mistakenly put this line but, now it will have a purpose in the next iterations.
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I don't think you need a special JS library to embed SVGs (source), so this can still be removed.
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Sure, will see if it works that way.
'css/small.css', | ||
'css/custom.css' |
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There doesn't really seem to be a place for this comment, but the new design is really harsh on the eyes for those with "dark mode" enabled. This wasn't a problem with the original site, as it used more muted greys/blues rather than a stark white background.
If possible, could you use something like prefers-color-scheme
to develop a light- and dark-mode palette? Or, if that's a lot of additional work, tone down the brightness of the current design to the grey/blue theme of the original?
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I could go through that light/dark mode route, but, it seems everyone wants the blue back even the project maintainer themselves, so, will work on that.
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Also, getting to proper dark is very challenging it seems, as people seem to prefer different shades of dark, it took even Github couple of iterations to figure that out so, 🤷🏾♂️
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@vdye I can't seem to reply below on this: #28 (comment)
Won't it look a bit bad and dated to have those types of box arrow buttons on the navbar?
We can do for other buttons below but, 🤷🏾♂️
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If it's good enough for Google and their (probable) army of UI designers, it's probably fine. 🙂 (although I know I see it all the time on other modern sites - once you want to look for something, it somehow becomes impossible to find it).
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That being said, I don't want to dictate how you show the internal/external link distinction (a box arrow is just one option). All I'm really looking for is something distinguishing the two. Color of the text, boldness of the text, icons, etc. are all possibilities, plus others I'm probably not thinking of.
EDIT: they're all external links - with that in mind, you probably don't need any extra emphasis other than potentially bolding the FAQ (for the reasons mentioned in the other comment)
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<div id="navbarSupportedContent" class="collapse navbar-collapse"> | ||
<ul class="navbar-nav ml-auto"> | ||
<li class="nav-item"><a style="font-weight:bold" href="https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/wiki/FAQ" |
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I believe it's bold because it's an internal link, but the others are external. If you do want to un-bold it, you could use an icon indicator (like a box arrow) to show that the external links are external (and open in a new tab).
EDIT: they're all external links, you can ignore what I have written here 🙂
🤣 thank you for the good humor about my feedback! I don't think it has to be blue, and I can agree that maybe the current blue is "too much". The problem I want to correct is the blank sterility. If it were 2015, I guess we would do some kind of tessellating low-poly texture. 2008, we'd be doing a skeuomorphic pool table. I'm not sure what's in fashion now, so that in 5 years we can look back and see how dated it all feels 🤪 |
What's that? I understand you mean the blank parts in the website but, why this term as I think sterility has a different meaning? @vtbassmatt, I had to google lots of things. 😃 |
Also, @dscho mentioned that this looks bad in iPad mini and it does. On iPad and iPhone, and other devices it's fine. |
Okay, confirmed again, looks like it's broken for tab and other devices with 768 pixels width. Okay, that makes sense. |
Looks like it's because you use |
Okay, will try that. Thanks! |
D'oh, sorry: definition 2c. "lacking in stimulating emotional or intellectual quality : lifeless // as in 'a sterile work of art'"
I'm sorry! I'll try to communicate more clearly and succinctly -- I have a bad habit of being wordy. |
Oh makes sense. Thanks for explaining.
No no. It's awesome, I'm happy to learn new things. 😃 |
Maybe as a compromise, we could have a light-blue background in the banner on top (the one that says "git for windows")? |
* Change git in logo to lowercase git with proper font * Use SVG logos * Remove copyright from footer and redesign footer * Add Issues to navbar * Remove Boldness from FAQ * Use cdn.jsdelivr.net with SRI for obtaining script files * Remove issue tracker button * Reword the Git tagline * Other minor fixes Signed-off-by: Pratik Karki <[email protected]>
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New updated website here: https://prertik.github.io/git-for-windows.github.io |
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@prertik the new design is definitely addressing the concerns I had 😁 Two newly-introduced nitpicks (as a result of you reacting to all our others, no doubt!): Yeah, the "sea of blue" is now distracting more than it's making the page feel nice. I think because you've got some solid, dark blue in the top bar, we could drop the body The links in the header and footer fail WCAG guidelines for contrast (and subjectively, seem too similar to me). In the spirit of inclusiveness, I want to make sure even folks with reduced color vision or eyesight have an easy time seeing the important bits. The design (at least as it's posted on your
*The header text is defined as pure-white and 50% alpha. I went to 75% alpha to get my numbers, which resulted in that huge contrast ratio. We only need to get to 4.5 to be within guidelines, so there's lots of wiggle room there if you want to keep the text more on the dim side. |
Thank you @vtbassmatt for the proper explanation. I'll iterate. |
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I tried a couple of things on top, and pushed to my fork. This is how it looks here: (Note: I had to cheat via Developer Tools to force the "Git for Windows" text to What do you think? |
We all have experienced https://gitforwindows.org/ was broken for some time. Broken in a sense, it wasn't responsive and showed weird scaling on big monitors, and looked bad in mobile view. So, rather than raise an issue and burden the maintainer to fix that, I took out some free time and redesigned it. This doesn't use any prevalent frameworks like Jekyll, Hugo, and such. It just has an
index.html
and some CSS and uses bootstrap from CDN to give us a responsive simple website. I also have add.nojekyll
file so that it can be easily hosted from Github.Furthermore, I didn't remove the unnecessary CSS files and js as there might be other pages which might depend on that so, to not break stuff, I didn't dare.
I haven't updated on
governance model
page as I believe some revision can be made on that and maybe can be placed in this sameindex.html
page.P.S. I am not very good at designing and doing frontend and do have some limitations to what I can do. 😉
Here's the index.html in all it's glory.