New package python311 3.11.2

[dmacks]

This is just the python311 portion of PR #996, the new package for the next language-version, forked for further development. Because it's a brand new package, it's an easy chance to change the packaging before it gets into a public repo. The plan, inspired by Debian is to move the tk components (large dep tree, some of which might dep on python itself) to a separate .info to thin out the main build and break potential dep-cycles (#996 (comment)).

Because python << 311 included tk and python >= 311 will externalize it to a separate package, any other packages that need python-tk will need to adjust their dependencies for py>=311. Could someone (@TheSin?) with a real Debian-distro box post the reverse-dependencies on "python3-tk" and "python3-tk-dbg"?

[dmacks]

Debian has:

• "python3-tk"
  ** source package "python3-stdlib-extensions"
  ** dependencies on tk and python3 libraries

So I'm specifically looking for reverse-depends:python3-tk

But

• source-package "python3.11"
  ** includes libpython and python interp
  ** includes "idle-python3.11", which depends:python3-tk

How is that not circular (python includes idle, idle:depends:p-tk, p-tk:depends:python)?

[TheSin-]

$ apt-cache rdepends python3-tk
python3-tk
Reverse Depends:
  python3
  python3-yade
  python3-twisted
  python3-ttkthemes
  totalopenstation
  python3-topplot
  thonny
  python3-tksnack
  python3-seaborn
  scribus-data
  python3-sagetex
  sagemath
  rhinote
  rabbitvcs-core
  qflow
  libpython3.9-testsuite
  idle-python3.9
  python3-tk-dbg
  python3-full
  python3-pil.imagetk
  idle
  python3-tktreectrl
  python3-pyo
  python3-pauvre
  python3-matplotlib-venn
  python3-ltfatpy
  python3-guizero
  python3-easygui
  python3-biopython
  python3-bayespy
  python3-ase
  pysolfc
  pysatellites
  python3-pyraf
  python3-opengl
  pymoctool
  pylint
  plasmidomics
  plakativ
  python3-sane
  blt
  python3-osmnx
  nvpy
  python3-nltk
  netgen-lvs
  python3-netgen
  python3-mpl-scatter-density
  mma
  python3-matplotlib
  ludevit
  loook
  inkscape-textext
  inkscape-textext
  inkscape-textext
  inkscape-textext
  gausssum
  python3-galpy
  expeyes
  etm
  education-development
  python3-aplpy
  python3-astroquery
  ariba

[nieder]

configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --with-pkgconfig

2. dependency tcltk uses ppkg-config, but this uses pkgconfig. Can this be moved to ppkg-config as well?

3. emacs formatting line references python310.patch

Successfully built on 10.14.6 and 13.5 (intel)

[dhomeier]

I've built the one for #996 (now at 3.11.6) with pkgconf, but could try with ppkg-config. But I have no idea where to even start with taking the python-tk parts apart here, and have no access to a Debian system for reference.

[TheSin-]

the debian files for building are easy to get without debian, http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python3.11/python3.11_3.11.2-6.debian.tar.xz should have everything you need, patches, rules file for how it's build, all the splits, etc etc

[dhomeier]

Those should be helpful – for someone who knows how to turn those ~160 files into a Fink .info.

[TheSin-]

I'll have a stable it once I get some time, I'm pretty well versed in it. That being said you could just use type deb helper and run the debian builds.

[nieder]

Browsable version of the pyhton3.11 debian tarball: https://salsa.debian.org/cpython-team/python3/-/tree/python3.11/debian
Browsable version of the standard extensions (including tkinter): https://salsa.debian.org/cpython-team/python3-stdlib

Unfortunately, their rules are fairly obscure in this case. But here's their file list: https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/amd64/python3-tk/filelist so it looks to be tkinter

@dmacks is the goal to make tkinter a separate splitoff in the main package, or a separate package built from the main tarball but using installed python3.11 ?

[cooljeanius]

So apparently this could help with #995 once merged?