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Perl Steering Committee (PSC) Meeting

Arrangements

  • Time: 2020-08-04 13:00 GMT
  • Location: Web (Jitsi)
  • Invitees:
    • Perl Steering Committee members
    • #toolchain

Attendees

Meeting notes

  • #toolchain was invited to the call.
    • Invitation was accepted by one person who wanted to join but eventually could not attend.
  • Recording meetings
    • Mithaldu and other #toolchain members have requested recording these meetings.
      • They feel the meeting notes are insufficient.
    • Response:
      • The group feels this is a trust issue and recording will not help.
        • Participants felt confident that their positions are expressed well in the notes.
        • Participants expressed they wouldn't feel comfortable being recorded.
      • No other "private" meeting has been recorded including...
        • The Perl 5 Core Summits, originally known as Perl 5 Hack (p5h).
        • The Toolchain Summits, originally known as QA Hackathon.
        • Ad-hoc meetings at conferences.
        • Direct messages on IRC
        • Email threads between contributors not on a particular list.
      • The point of the calls is to accelerate discussion and then take those to existing channels.
        • This is just the online extension of the Perl 5 Core Summits.
        • We are coming to consensus on the call and then going to the mailing list for discussion.
        • The agreement so far is that no decision can be made without discussion outside the meetings.
    • We will seek out additional feedback on how to make the notes more encompassing of the discussion - what do people feel is truly missing?
  • Uncertainty about what is going on.
    • There is a LOT of misinformation going on about the current plan.
    • Examples of misunderstandings:
      • 7.0.0 is going out on August 20th.
      • 7.0.0 will include additional development or fixes.
      • 7.0.0 will block the existing production release schedule (5.34.0 will not be possible).
      • 7.x will have whatever feature they disagree with (and that this had already been decided).
    • We hope to address these with further communication on the Perl 5 Porters mailing list.
  • Many people have an issue with Sawyer's email to the list explaining involvement of the Porters list.
    • Some people got the impression that only the opinion of "developers" matters.
    • It expressed a notion that the Porters list is not an important or valuable avenue of discussion on the language.
    • We all agreed this needs to be rectified.
    • Sawyer will seek additional feedback on the issues with his email in order to help correct the bad communication made.
  • Discuss version bump for 7.1.0
    • https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/18020
    • Tux: -Dinc_version_list might lead to not sharing installed modules between previous versions of the language
      • The version bump is meant to not change this behavior. This sounds like a new item for change?
    • Someone suggested that we wait with the bump to 7.1.0 in blead
      • No one at the meeting strongly opposed to keeping blead on 5.33.x.
    • The meeting was at its limit and we were not able to complete this conversation.

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