Support wikimedia_commons= tag like image=

[amadvance]

Hi

It would be wonderful if a weblink to the image of guideposts is shown together with other information. Maybe even a small clickable image.

Now it's possible to compose manually the link from the information provided, but obviously normal users will never know about it.

This is a guidepost example: https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#guidepost?id=7707861371
This is the linked image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:20200712-valcava_roncola-66.jpg

This will be also an incentive to mappers to add such information.

Thanks in advance!

[lonvia]

This already works when using the image tag, e.g. https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#guidepost?id=3734997144. I'm not a fan of these extra tags for every photo site. In my opinion it creates extra work for mappers and data consumers alike.

[amadvance]

Hi @lonvia

I'm a mapper, and at least for me, having the image shown is a positive thing :) I've already loaded hundreds of them!

Up to you to decide. I used the "wikimedia_commons" tag because it's the one recommended
by the documentation, over the "image" one and any other. See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:image
Also considering that Wikimedia Commons share the same open values of Openstreetmap, giving it a special treatment could makes sense.

If not, I'll switch to use the "image" tag. Happy that it's shown!

Cheers!
Andrea

[amadvance]

Hi @lonvia

I'm starting to use the "image" tag (in combination with wikimedia_commons), so closing this request.

Thanks anyway!

[ivanbranco]

Hi,

I try opening again [EDIT: ok, apparently I can't] this issue as suggested by Mateusz_Konieczny in this forum thread.

Considering that:

• the wiki for the image tags says that the wikimedia_commons=*: should be used whenever possible instead of this tag [image=*].
• this topic keeps popping up over the time: in this issue, in the image=* wiki talk page, in the forum ecc.
• the importance of waymarkedtrails plays a big role in this topic. I quote other users: So, the image tag is going to be always preferred by mappers. [...] At least until someone can convince waymarkedtrails.org and other sites to support the wikimedia_commons tag. or The reason given by the mappers is usually "because $APP doesn't resolve the links.
• this point is more regional: the CAI (Italian Alpine Club) suggests wikimedia_commons=* as tag for guidepost (source). In Italy there are at the moment I'm writing 2681 information=guidepost with the wikimedia_commons=* tag alone, that therefore are not considered by waymarkedtrails. And 2502 with the same data duplicated in both wikimedia_commons=* and image=* just to make it appear on waymarkedtrails.

Maybe in two years the situation has changed and implementing this feature will be possible in the future?

Thanks, Ivan

[amadvance]

Hi,

Reopening with the new information provided by @ivanbranco

Supporting wikimedia_commons= tag for guidepost images will avoid the annoying duplication that there is now in the database, with image= and wikimedia_commons= tags pointing to the same link.

Thanks,
Andrea

[matkoniecz]

Note also that Wikimedia Commons is safer to use -Wikimedia Commons images are limited to freely licensed ones and you can get machine-readable copyright data to display attribution and so on

[amadvance]

Hi,

An update regarding this issue: There is now a MapRoulette task to move image links from 'image=' to 'wikimedia_commons=', meaning that images are now disappearing from Waymarkedtrails.

See: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/41410

This is obviously an unpleasant condition for all the mappers, like me, who intentionally use the 'image=' tag to have images displayed on Waymarkedtrails.

Sorry to insist, but if Waymarkedtrails could support the 'wikimedia_commons=' tag, it would completely solve this issue.

Thanks,
Andrea