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Creating a new sufficient technique using audio ducking to create audio descriptions #3806
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@mraccess77 made the following comment in 1768:
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regarding @mraccess77 's comment: absolutely, i thought it was implicit that you'd only duck parts that don't have spoken words/content. worth making it explicit though, just in case |
Noting that this (open) issue relates to conversation on 3/28 backlog call.
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@bruce-usab and @patrickhlauke
I've created a draft of the first failure technique for 1.2.5 #4390 I don't feel like we need a separate failure for audio ducking, as it logically seems to be part of a failure called "Failure of Success Criterion 1.2.5 due to not using available pauses in dialogue to provide audio descriptions of important visual content" I believe the addition of a paragraph that talks about this technique would likely suffice. I don't believe it needs to be part of the check, because the failure already specifies pauses in dialogue, not audio. I do still feel like audio ducking should be part of a sufficient technique, and based on what I see in the existing techniques, I believe it may work as a separate technique that can be listed as one of the techniques these other grosser techniques (like using a second audio track) employ. |
Currently, the failure has a note that reads
I suggest removing the note styling and making that be a paragraph, and then adding an additional paragraph to read something like:
On the one hand I'm happy about this because it provides some more gauge for "appropriate" in #2 of the check. But it is also, to use Patrick's term, "hand wavy". Two people will rarely agree on when audio descriptions are necessary, but I feel like this wording provides guidance which should lead to more thoughtful implementation, and hopefully more consistent grading of "Pass" and "Fail" than we currently experience. |
I like this proposal as it communicates that AD can be used for non-spoken areas when audio ducking is applied. |
Thanks, @mraccess77. We discussed briefly on the WCAG TF call today. @scottaohara is reviewing this as part of his review of #4390, with the hope that we can merge the above text into the Failure technique. The TF is also opening an issue to create a sufficient technique that discusses some of the common practices done by creators of audio descriptions. |
Remove note styling and add in wording suggested in #3806
The fairly long discussion in #1768 surfaces the idea of using audio ducking to provide more opportunities for audio descriptions within a prerecorded video.
Introduction of the same technique is also proposed through PR #1790 to the existing language of 1.2.5
Although this may work better as a discussion, I thought I would initiate it as an issue.
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