diff --git a/scripts/determine-main-clustergroup.sh b/scripts/determine-main-clustergroup.sh
new file mode 100755
index 000000000..6271dbadd
--- /dev/null
+++ b/scripts/determine-main-clustergroup.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,16 @@
+#!/bin/bash
+
+PATTERN_DIR="$1"
+
+if [ -z "$PATTERN_DIR" ]; then
+    PATTERN_DIR="."
+fi
+
+CGNAME=$(yq '.main.clusterGroupName' "$PATTERN_DIR/values-global.yaml")
+
+if [ -z "$CGNAME" ] || [ "$CGNAME" == "null" ]; then
+    echo "Error - cannot detrmine clusterGroupName"
+    exit 1
+fi
+
+echo "$CGNAME"
diff --git a/scripts/determine-pattern-name.sh b/scripts/determine-pattern-name.sh
new file mode 100755
index 000000000..fb503fe68
--- /dev/null
+++ b/scripts/determine-pattern-name.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,15 @@
+#!/bin/sh
+
+PATTERN_DIR="$1"
+
+if [ -z "$PATTERN_DIR" ]; then
+    PATTERN_DIR="."
+fi
+
+PATNAME=$(yq '.global.pattern' "$PATTERN_DIR/values-global.yaml" 2>/dev/null)
+
+if [ -z "$PATNAME" ] || [ "$PATNAME" == "null" ]; then
+    PATNAME="$(basename "$PWD")"
+fi
+
+echo "$PATNAME"