reword G20 #300 #313
reword G20 #300 #313
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work out the mentoring dimension. |
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I've explicitly mentioned mentoring in this section. I guess we could add a link to the working in a team and teach competencies. or vice-versa. |
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currently I think, that it would be nice, if the competencies would do the back-reference and thereby show that they are derived from the values. |
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| According to the \ac{UNESCO} Science Report [@Schneegans2021] women account for 33.3% of all researchers. | ||
| 60.2% of researches come from high-income countries which account for 17.5% of the global population in 2018. | ||
| Furthermore, the socioeconomic background of academics is not representative of the general population, for example in the US a tenure-track academic is 25 times more likely to have a parent with a PhD [@Morgan2022]. | ||
| This imbalance is even more pronounced in \ac{SE} with a majority of developers identifying as white male [@StackOverflow2022]. |
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The "This" at the beginning of this sentence refers to the imbalance in the previous sentence, but here that does not make a lot of sense, as that sentence is neither about gender nor skin color.
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What about
These imbalances are even more pronounced
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I would probably rather remove the last sentence (with the reference to "white male"). As discussed, it does not really add something the other sentences wouldn't have said already.
Also, the cited survey has a few things so "strange" about that immediately make my eyebrow raise: I wouldn't try to build solid arguments on it. Aside from obvious bias issues, even quoting from it like we currently do would be wrong: actually, a minority of developers there identify as 'white' and that is without taking the gender into account. Why is that? Because they offered both 'white' and 'European' in the same list of categories - which makes absolutely no sense to me. Following that line you could add "US-American" as a category and where would this leave you.
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| According to the \ac{UNESCO} Science Report [@Schneegans2021] women account for 33.3% of all researchers. | ||
| 60.2% of researches come from high-income countries which account for 17.5% of the global population in 2018. | ||
| Furthermore, the socioeconomic background of academics is not representative of the general population, for example in the US a tenure-track academic is 25 times more likely to have a parent with a PhD [@Morgan2022]. | ||
| This imbalance is even more pronounced in \ac{SE} with a majority of developers identifying as white male [@StackOverflow2022]. |
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This imbalance is even more pronounced in \ac{SE} with a majority of developers identifying as white male
There is a question of scope here, and thus we maybe should refrain from at least the "white". If we do talk about Germany, this is hardly surprising, as there is a far smaller fraction of the population non-white than in other countries where this discussion is much more prevalent (say, the US) and non-whites are certainly a minority, so of course 'white SEs' are a majority, simply already because 'white' people are already the vast majority of people. If the majority of SEs in Germany would not identify as 'white', assuming the current population composition, this would be cause for concern, not the fact that it is.
If we do talk about "in some country on this world", then this statement is certainly not true everywhere, not even for IT-heavy countries, think of China or India.
If it do mean "the entire world as one, on average", then this essentially falls back to the point of "high-income countries", because that is where you tend to find a higher percentage of "white SEs", on average, so "being white" is not necessarily the cause, but social and economic factors, and thus, we should not call out "white" here without a good reason to.
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This is from the stackoverflow survey with 73k respondents from 180 countries around the world. 18% of respondents are from the US, the next group with 9.26% are from India. Germany with 7.52% are on spot 3. The question is how representative stackoverflow is and how it maps to the RSE community. I could imagine that there might be a language issue. Also who knows how the Great Firewall of China interacts with stackoverflow.
So, maybe the question for us (white, male in Germany) is, what does being aware of these imbalances mean? I think we need to personally put more effort into supporting people from any not-dominant group. This could be accepting there are other priorities, eg family, cultural differences (I once had a Chinese colleague and it took us quite a long while to understand it each other's approach), issues coming from prejudices (again I have a story for that one where I badly misjudged). I think all I want to say is that there are huge imbalances, that chances are we are in an extremely privileged position that we need to be aware of and given an opportunity do something about it.
The issue with diversity is also that it is more difficult for homogeneous groups to think about problems other groups might be facing.
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I am completely with you here. This is also why I don't like when weak or wrong arguments are used when strong ones would be so much better. It has the effect of weakening diversity efforts.
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I see your point.
attempt to reword the paragraph on academic diversity #300