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title: "2019-11-14 and 2019-11-21 Lang Team Triage Meetings"
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author: Niko Matsakis
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description: "2019-11-14 and 2019-11-21 Lang Team Triage Meetings"
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team: the lang team <https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/lang>
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Since I apparently forgot to post a blog post last week, this blog
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post covers two lang-team triage meetings: [2019-11-14] and
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[2019-11-21]. Recordings from [both] [meetings] are also available.
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[lang-team]: https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/
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[both]: https://youtu.be/0exyVhBmDW0
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[meetings]: https://youtu.be/X2z3CoV0OUM
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## Updates on shepherded items
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Here is a list of the ["shepherded items"] that the lang team is
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tracking, along with weekly updates on the latest developments.
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["shepherded items"]: http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2019/09/11/aic-shepherds-3-0/
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* [const-eval](https://github.com/rust-lang/const-eval)
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- there is progress towards extending the set of expressions
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permitted in constants to include `&mut` borrows, if/match, and
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loops.
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* [project-ffi-unwind](https://github.com/rust-lang/project-ffi-unwind)
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- current status: currently evaluating whether "C" functions should
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permit unwinding by default
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- trying to get measurements of the impact on code size
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- prototyped the plan in a rustc branch, but needs a few updates and to be executed
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on a representative code base (likely Fuschia)
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* [Coherence can be bypassed by an indirect impl for a trait object](https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/57893)
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- did a [crater run of the proposal](https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/66037#issuecomment-549575983) but have only partially analyzed the impact
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* grammar working group — qmx
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- no updates this week
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* `!` type and fallback — centril
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* [`!` is stable on nightly!](https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=nightly&mode=debug&edition=2018&gist=a16420f41bbd2496ed07c75cf048189e)
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## About the lang-team meetings
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The lang-team triage meetings are held weekly on Zoom (see our
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[meeting calendar]). Anyone is welcome to come and observe. We make a
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"best effort" to record the meetings though technical issues sometimes
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intervene.
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[meeting calendar]: https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/#meeting-calendar

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