diff --git a/flask_admin/model/base.py b/flask_admin/model/base.py
index 21d0a57dc..9970b56f0 100755
--- a/flask_admin/model/base.py
+++ b/flask_admin/model/base.py
@@ -870,7 +870,7 @@ def _refresh_forms_cache(self):
 
         # Initialize frozen fields
         if not hasattr(self, "_saved_frozen_fields"):
-            self._saved_frozen_fields = None
+            self._frozen_id = None
 
     def _refresh_filters_cache(self):
         self._filters = self.get_filters()
@@ -2119,15 +2119,21 @@ def create_view(self):
         if not self.can_create:
             return redirect(return_url)
 
-        form = self.create_form()
+        # handle frozen fields, coming from an edit form
+        existing_model = None
+        if self._frozen_id:
+            existing_model = self.get_one(self._frozen_id)
+            self._frozen_id = None
+
+        form = self.create_form(obj=existing_model)
         if not hasattr(form, '_validated_ruleset') or not form._validated_ruleset:
             self._validate_form_instance(ruleset=self._form_create_rules, form=form)
 
-        # handle frozen fields, coming from an edit form
-        if self._saved_frozen_fields:
-            for (field, data) in self._saved_frozen_fields.items():
-                getattr(form, field).data = data
-            self._saved_frozen_fields = None
+        if existing_model is not None:
+            # we need to reset excluded frozen fields here.
+            for field in self.excluded_frozen_fields:
+                if field in form.data:
+                    getattr(form, field).data = ""
 
         if self.validate_form(form):
             # in versions 1.1.0 and before, this returns a boolean
@@ -2143,7 +2149,7 @@ def create_view(self):
                     for field in self.excluded_frozen_fields:
                         if field in form.data:
                             getattr(form, field).data = ""
-                    self._saved_frozen_fields = form.data
+                    self._frozen_id = self.get_pk_value(model)
                     return redirect(request.url)
                 elif '_continue_editing' in request.form:
                     # if we have a valid model, try to go to the edit view
@@ -2199,12 +2205,7 @@ def edit_view(self):
                 if '_add_another' in request.form:
                     return redirect(self.get_url('.create_view', url=return_url))
                 elif '_freeze_fields' in request.form and self.allow_frozen_fields:
-                    # we simply don't redirect here, which will cause the fields to
-                    # stay as they are. All we need to do is reset the excluded fields.
-                    for field in self.excluded_frozen_fields:
-                        if field in form.data:
-                            getattr(form, field).data = ""
-                    self._saved_frozen_fields = form.data
+                    self._frozen_id = self.get_pk_value(model)
                     return redirect(self.get_url('.create_view', url=return_url))
                 elif '_continue_editing' in request.form:
                     return redirect(self.get_url('.edit_view', id=self.get_pk_value(model)))