Payload CMS dropping support for Vite

[thipokch]

I'm just curious about the direction of the project after PayloadCMS decided to go all in for NextJS.

[xHomu]

Indeed, the initial announcement at NextCon last year that PayloadCMS made us very nervous, and we have been following PayloadCMS 3's development closely since.

payloadcms/payload#4202

I'm happy to report that we're confident that, while there are still some technical challenges to overcome, mana.wiki has a viable path to maintain on the latest PayloadCMS releases while remain on the Remix framework that we prefer.

The mana.wiki team also maintains the popular Remix+Payload template RePay, and we have found solutions for the two frameworks to play nicely on a single server: https://github.com/manawiki/repay/tree/payload-v3

In fact, I figured out how to we can avoid the next dependency altogether, after consulting with the Payload team https://github.com/manawiki/api-standalone-simple/blob/main/package.json This option is missing features like the admin dashboard, and not quite ripe. It'll likely require us to write an Remix port of the PayloadCMS admin dashboard and rest/graphql endpoints.

As the largest OSS project built on PayloadCMS, we are in regular communication with the Payload team on Discord, and that gave us confidence that they're on the right track and helped overcome our initial misgivings about the NextJS dependency.

[thipokch]

Thank you for such insightful reply. Please let me know whenever you port/fork the admin dashboard and rest/graphql endpoint, I might be able to help / contribute. Thanks :)

[xHomu]

Definitely give you a ping when we have the bandwidth to tackle that project! It might be a while though!

[thipokch]

I don't really mind them moving the admin to NextJs, but the decision to move API route handler into the next package is somewhat questionable. It made the PayloadCMS tightly coupled to NextJs.

[thipokch]

Well I have my answer: 'in an ideal world we can have it all be framework agnostic but its just not feasible rn, our next package is very much nextjs opinionated'

Not wanting to reinvent the wheel, but I guess I might as well rewrite it with Hono and Remix.