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Meeting Notes: Governance, Feb 26 2019

Governance meeting held Feb 26 2019 @ 3PM UTC in grin/Lobby on Gitter, full chat transcript here. Meeting lasted ~ 90 min.

Notes are truncated, and conversations sorted based on topic and not always chronological. Quotes are edited for brevity and clarity, and not always exact.

Community attendance:

  • antiochp
  • catheryne_n_twitter
  • coolman_kurt_twitter
  • davidburkett
  • garyyu
  • hashmap
  • ignopeverell
  • jaspervdm
  • kargakis
  • miketwenty1_twitter
  • nijynot
  • noble_block_twitter
  • plrehm_twitter
  • quentinlesceller
  • tromp
  • umma08
  • yeastplume

(apologies if I missed someone - open a PR or contact @lehnberg to add)

Agenda points & Actions

1. Agenda review

Proposed agenda accepted.

2. Action point follow ups from previous meetings

Previous actions:

  • Fund spending transparency report not created yet, no spends yet.
  • ignopeverell: Catheryne has sent me a contract yesterday that I need to review. We'll have to pay 1/3 of the total amount up front, the rest to come at the end. Hopefully we'll have this set up this week.

4. Promotion of other projects

5. Risk mgmt brainstorm

  • ignopeverell: I don't think there's been any more progress, which is likely partly my fault as I haven't replied yet to setup the first interview. Hopefully I can get back to that this week as well.
  • tromp: I did one interview on risk, then suggested to bring in Yeastplume on another (more wallet focussed).

6. Marketing/Media/PR releations

  • Previous write-up by @lehnberg:

    Regarding PR, I'd say no pr@ centralization / gatekeeping, although I really appreciate the help we’ve been offered. But as I told the owner of the PR company in person, part of what makes Grin “Grin” is that we're community driven and non-hierarchical. It sends a strange message in my opinion when a community project has a PR agency co-ordinating interview requests. I think we've been doing okay managing PR, media and positioning so far, with an irreverent underdog attitude that journalists seem to like and doesn’t come off as try-hard. We’re earnest, and in my opinion do not struggle to receive accurate news coverage. It feels more something like an ICO project, a foundation, or a VC company would need rather than an open source project. /my two cents.

  • noble_block_twitter: Sounds like coordinating media interviews is not really a want/need at the moment. I'll still support the project in whatever way I can, and will leave the door open if this ever becomes a headache. In the meanwhile, should I just point to gitter to coordinate if I have someone come asking?
  • ignopeverell: I think that's a good assumption.

7. Gary Yuu proposal to hire developers

  • garyyu: I propose to offer Igno and Antioch full-time jobs for Grin development.
    • Full proposal
    • I strongly prefer this to be "full time jobs" rather than "time based" or "tasked based" as @lehnberg had previously suggested. If the offer is not a stable and long-term job, it's difficult for part of us to make that hard decision to quit the current day job!
  • yeastplume: Given the cash flow situation (or lack of one) there's no way grin can offer a full time job to anyone. The money isn't there, and there's no point pretending to anyone that we can give them a stable and secure job. It's much safer all around to consider chunks of work for an amount of time. More like a contract from the dev's perspective.
    • hashmap: specific chunks of work or chunks of times? I’m more inclined towards the later. Full time job sounds unrealistic atm, time-limited contracts is closer to reality.
    • igno: same
    • quentinlesceller: same
    • kargakis: time sounds better
    • jaspervdm: offering a long term job also comes with some centralization risk
  • yeastplume: I think 3-6 months is good, as long as the money is there. I did 6 for the last campaign to avoid having to go back into fundraising too soon, but 3 month chunks is probably appropriate if there is some inwards cash flow (even if it's unreliable). I've done 3 months stints a few times with 4 kids and a mortgage and payments. It's risky employment.
  • ignopeverell: I would personally favor starting with a 3 months donation for @antiochp and go from there, once we're happy with that we can start looking at other candidates like myself depending on funds.
    • so the first proposal to be voted on would be: donation from the general fund to @antiochp for 3 months of work at $10k/month.
    • antiochp: Most if not all of that time would be presumably working on dandelion and relative lock times and other features as deemed fit by the council.
    • The meeting agreed unaninmously, aside from one dissenter (@miketwenty_twitter) who had no substantial reason for disagreeing.

Decision: Funding for Antioch Peverell

Donation of $30k to Antioch Peverell (@antiochp) from the main dev fund, to facilitate Antioch working full time on Grin protocol development as they see fit for a period of 3 months.

10. Other questions

None

Meeting adjourned.