Request for RAiD failing URL validation

[mpfl]

I would like to register ISO 23527:2022 Information and documentation — Research activity identifier (RAiD) but due to the way we have implemented our resolver, the sample ID validation is failing.

For example, the valid RAiD https://raid.org/10.71821/23fcbc6f resolves in browser to https://static.prod.raid.org.au/raids/10.71821/23fcbc6f/. This is handled by some Javascript on the raid.org 404 page that determines whether the URL contains a valid RAiD, then redirects the browser to the landing page.

Unfortunately, the sample ID validation only looks at the headers, sees the 404, and does not let me submit the form even though the RAiD is correct.

[renatocjn]

Hello @mpfl, thank you for your interest in identifiers.org. Indeed we would be happy to have a namespace for RAiD.

This however is a problem. We recommend and expect services to employ HTTP response codes correctly as a way for initial and continuous validation of URLs. That way, down the line, our system can flag URL patterns that need to be updated or resources that need to be deprecated.

Is there a good reason that the redirect is performed on the JavaScript side? This seems like it's problematic in many ways. For example, most search engines would misunderstand the code and index your page incorrectly.

What has happened before with client-side applications, although not recommended, was that the website always answers with a 200 even on the not found page. I can't find an example now, but maybe this is better than returning 404 for a successful page.

If this is something you can't change, I can bring it up with the team to see what can be done.

[mpfl]

I acknowledge that our current implementation is not ideal, and we have already started work on using HTTP redirects for resolution.

However, we are very close to completing some work on implementing schema.org mapping and we were hoping to use "https://registry.identifiers.org/registry/raid" as the identifier type.

Would you be able to add RAiD on the promise that we will be reimplementing our resolution as soon as we can?

[renatocjn]

That should be fine, I will just have to confirm this with the rest of the team. Would you be able to give a time window of when we can expect the resolution to be implemented?

Also, could you provide the information on that you want on our registry? You can list them here, or send screenshots, then I can see about adding them to the registry. You can also email them at identifiers-org@ebi.ac.uk.

On the use of identifiers.org as an identifier, you would be able to use use http://identifiers.org/raid as a shorter version. If you are planning to use this on knowledge graphs, maybe have a look at our ontology files at https://github.com/identifiers-org/ontop/tree/main/idorg-ontology to see if anything is of interest there.

[mpfl]

I would like to see the new resolution implemented in Q3 2025.

I'll email the information through.

Thanks for that information. Although I'm a veteran at research PIDs like DOI, ORCID, IGSN, ROR, I need to skill myself up when it comes to linked data.