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{
"sid": "i2rf3c",
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/",
"title:": "If I go to class, I could die. If I don\u2019t, I can\u2019t afford to get my degree.",
"text": "TLDR: my university is forcing me (an immunocompromised person) to attend in-person classes or else they\u2019ll take my scholarships. \n\nI\u2019m so angry towards my university! I am an art student at a large school in the Midwest. All of my art classes are being held in-person or hybrid (12 credit hours this semester) and my gen-ed English class is online (three credit hours). The in-person component of my classes does not bode well for me because I have asthma. I can\u2019t take the risk. I also don\u2019t want to take online art classes... because why would I pay $24k per year to take online ceramics and painting classes?? \n\nI decided a couple months ago that I was going to stay home this year. My only concern was my scholarship package, because it says in the fine print that I have to be a full-time student and I have to finish in 4 consecutive years. I can\u2019t afford to go to school without it. So I talked to the person in charge of awarding the specific merit scholarship, and he said I should write an appeal letter and not worry too much. \n\nI wrote my appeal letter and attached a note from my doctor with proof of my asthma. Well, today I gotta the official response: it basically said \u201ctoo f*cking bad... you need to come back to school.\u201d Ugh!!!! It feels like the university doesn\u2019t care if I live or die, they just want my chunk of $$$$$. I\u2019m still hopeful that I can register with disability office and ask for this as a reasonable accommodation, but with classes starting in three weeks, that\u2019s not a lot of time to wage war with the admissions office, disability office, financial aid office, and whoever else I have to talk to. \n\nAny thoughts or advice would be appreciated.",
"author": "sjbbg",
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"upvotes": 142,
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"comments": {
"g2yhl52": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g2yhl52/",
"text": "As a fellow asthmatic with scholarships to lose this is a really tough decision to make that you shouldn\u2019t have to. I know you\u2019re also trying to avoid shitty online classes, but most colleges seem to be providing online versions of their in person classes (live video lectures, online exam options, etc). Even if you have to go back, you may still be able to do it safely",
"author": "kazoo-in-you",
"created": 1598479103,
"upvotes": 1,
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"g2fw93h": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g2fw93h/",
"text": "Yeah, so this is disability discrimination. Contact your disability service at your uni.",
"author": "Punk_Trek",
"created": 1598088494,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
},
"g1w1trj": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g1w1trj/",
"text": "Keep contacting your univeristy. Give them valid reasons to why you can't go back to campus. You gotta keep fighting till you get what you want. \nGet higher ups involved if necessary. Tweet about your problem and maybe someone important can help you out",
"author": null,
"created": 1597688329,
"upvotes": 1,
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"g09ktoi": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g09ktoi/",
"text": "Seriously, get a lawyer. It\u2019s expensive but the lawsuit is gonna be worth it.",
"author": "a-streetcar-desire",
"created": 1596494301,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {}
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"g07rif4": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g07rif4/",
"text": "OP, I\u2019m sorry you are having to deal w this. While I don\u2019t have a condition that puts me at higher risk for contracting COVID...I care for a family member who just entered remission for stage 3 cancer. In speaking to her oncologist today (about similar concerns about returning to campus), it was suggested [by dr] I contact my advisor, as well as the dept. chair to work out accommodations for video access to my classes. I hope your university is willing to work with you on figuring something out that works best for you & your situation.",
"author": "FutileReaction",
"created": 1596467753,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {
"g0absxx": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g0absxx/",
"text": "Thank you for your concern. Best wishes to you and your family during this difficult time. Hopefully our universities makes good decisions!",
"author": "sjbbg",
"created": 1596508820,
"upvotes": 2,
"replies": {}
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}
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"g07nf5x": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g07nf5x/",
"text": "1. You should name the school and call them out. It wouldn't be doxing it would be warning other students.\n2. Contact a lawyer because that treatment sounds like a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act which would be grounds for legal action against the school since they are refusing to providing reasonable accommodations.",
"author": "squirrel8296",
"created": 1596465972,
"upvotes": 5,
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"g07f741": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g07f741/",
"text": "Your advisor is your advocate, work with them. It may also make sense to contact the ombudsman (university lawyer) since his job is to cover their ass. Reach higher than you have been. If there is a specific person funding your scholarship as sometimes there is, they may have some sway. Finally, if nothing works...publicly put them on blast on Twitter and other social media. This would really suck for you since I\u2019m sure the university wouldn\u2019t be happy, but good lord I can\u2019t imagine it would look good for them.",
"author": "Zam8859",
"created": 1596461924,
"upvotes": 5,
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},
"g06yrip": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g06yrip/",
"text": "How are you immune compromised? I have an autoimmune disease and have medical accommodations. What kind of illness do you have? Do you have any accommodations?",
"author": null,
"created": 1596448607,
"upvotes": 3,
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"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g071ac9/",
"text": "OP said they have asthma.",
"author": "FutileReaction",
"created": 1596451201,
"upvotes": 7,
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"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g072le9/",
"text": "Yes and that\u2019s why I asked if she had a health condition that would put her at a higher risk of getting covid. Asthma does not make you high risk for catching covid which is why she won\u2019t get medical accommodations for it.\n\nShe might be better off seeing a dr for anxiety over covid. She may get accommodations that way.",
"author": null,
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"upvotes": -2,
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"g078er1": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g078er1/",
"text": "I mean if you have asthma and get COVID then she literally could die because it\u2019s so brutal on the lungs.",
"author": "sdossantos97",
"created": 1596457452,
"upvotes": 10,
"replies": {}
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"g07k89e": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g07k89e/",
"text": "Asthma is considered an immunocompromised condition, especially involving inhalers. Though generally I would think any condition involving someone\u2019s lungs would put them at higher risk for developing severe Covid symptoms considering thats the target system",
"author": "oyoung101",
"created": 1596464500,
"upvotes": 7,
"replies": {
"g07qahi": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g07qahi/",
"text": "No it\u2019s not. You not at any higher risk of catching covid if you have asthma.",
"author": null,
"created": 1596467209,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {
"g07qr0n": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g07qr0n/",
"text": "Right; however, it puts one at higher risk of severe illness if infected with COVID-19.",
"author": "FutileReaction",
"created": 1596467422,
"upvotes": 5,
"replies": {
"g0zfc33": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g0zfc33/",
"text": "Depends on the kind of asthma, actually. Allergic asthma/non-allergic asthma have differing sets of risks, and a giant 1500-person retrospective showed that asthmatics are no more likely to be hospitalized than non-asthmatics. In fact, steroidal medication used to prevent/manage asthma may help reduce ACE2 expression and prevent a lot of the inflammation seen typically in COVID-19 patients. \n\nThat all being said - I understand not wanting to take the risk. I understand and agree with everyone here posting about how OP needs to advocate for themselves. And, FWIW - if OP DOES have to go back to school, I would HIGHLY recommend seeing a school counselor online.",
"author": "dasWolverine",
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"upvotes": 1,
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"g06lr9p": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g06lr9p/",
"text": "[deleted]",
"author": null,
"created": 1596435554,
"upvotes": 17,
"replies": {
"g079j5t": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g079j5t/",
"text": "Yeah definitely different circumstances because I go to a commuter college, but I had a somewhat similar experience where my partner is immunocompromised and we started our quarantine early. I have been working with a great advisor all along so I talked to her and stopped going to class in early March, before the school went online and blah blah very random small technicality lost all my aid (and I am full-ride) so fucking yikes. \n\nI was zooming with my advisor like every other day and she had to really dig deep and appeal to tons of people but she was determined and got it fixed for me. I never could have done it on my own.\n\nThis is my second go at college and the first time it didn\u2019t even cross my mind to find an advisor beyond basic required meetings because I knew what best for me of course. Well I cannot advocate for it enough. Idk if I am just lucky and got a good advisor but she has helped me so much and just knowing I have someone who I can turn to when idk who else to ask has been so valuable.",
"author": "Facenumber2",
"created": 1596458308,
"upvotes": 4,
"replies": {
"g0ab5un": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g0ab5un/",
"text": "Damn, I am so sorry that you had to go through that! I\u2019m not on a full ride, but losing the aid that covers over half of my expenses scares the shit out of me. I\u2019m glad you were able to fix that. \n\nIt shocks me that nearly everyone is getting cut a little slack because of the virus (lots of people have taken advantage of working from home, rent assistance, paid sick leave, etc.) without much hassle. But the university I have already given a small fortune to won\u2019t do the right thing. So frustrating!!! Working with my advisor is a great idea. She helped me (successfully) appeal a bad grade I got when my art history class went online... maybe she can work her magic again! \n\nThanks for the response.",
"author": "sjbbg",
"created": 1596508467,
"upvotes": 1,
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"g0aaf7l": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g0aaf7l/",
"text": "Thank you for your thoughtful response. The thing is that I *really* don\u2019t want to go to school during the pandemic. All I ask of my university is two things: a high quality education and a safe environment. My quality of education will be severely diminished, in addition to my safety concerns. Being an art student means nothing when I can\u2019t intern at the local galleries, go to networking events, get to know my professors, use the studios, work with the resident artists, etc. Ya know? \n\nI still like the idea of getting everyone involved. I\u2019ll definitely make a Zoom appointment with my advisor and my mentoring professors. I already talked to my favorite professor whom I respect a lot, but even he said that masks will lowkey not be required in his class and he thinks this is just the flu. Even if I did get the courage to go to school, I anticipate having be surround myself with idiots who believe this is just a hoax or political stunt or whatever. If the virus doesn\u2019t kill me, then seeing a bunch of morons doing risky shit might lol\n\nAgain, thank you for your insight.",
"author": "sjbbg",
"created": 1596508054,
"upvotes": 1,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"g06knih": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g06knih/",
"text": "Keep contacting your university. Make a petition. Don\u2019t settle for your university\u2019s rules if they put your health at risk!",
"author": "them1ghtybean",
"created": 1596434566,
"upvotes": 41,
"replies": {
"g06kvj0": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g06kvj0/",
"text": "Making a petition is a great idea. Thank you!",
"author": "sjbbg",
"created": 1596434762,
"upvotes": 20,
"replies": {}
}
}
},
"g06kip4": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g06kip4/",
"text": "I dont really have any advice because I've never had to deal with the disability offices, but I feel like that's your best bet. You get that certification and they have to follow the accommodations. Best of luck!",
"author": "unamablemove",
"created": 1596434449,
"upvotes": 24,
"replies": {
"g06kk3p": {
"link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/i2rf3c/if_i_go_to_class_i_could_die_if_i_dont_i_cant/g06kk3p/",
"text": "Thank you!",
"author": "sjbbg",
"created": 1596434483,
"upvotes": 3,
"replies": {}
}
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"updated": 1634062753
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