CollegeRant-1593705158-hjzipp.json

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  "sid": "hjzipp",
  "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/",
  "title:": "i hate college learning software with every fiber of my being.",
  "text": "i am about to obtain my second associate\u2019s degree with a trail of certifications before moving on to my bachelor\u2019s. i have two professors this semester who are primarily using learning software, namely norton\u2019s inquizitive and pearson\u2019s mymathlab. these programs are built for children, and poorly! they mark you wrong on correct answers, gives wrong page numbers to \u2018study\u2019 when you get the question wrong (despite it actually being correct) because the system is moronic, takes far too much time, uses outdated crap like flash player, and the list goes on. i\u2019m at my wit\u2019s end and i\u2019m just over halfway through the semester. \n\nnever mind the fact that you can cheat your way through the entire software (in both cases) and not learn a gd thing the entire semester. *especially when it marks you **falsely** incorrect*. how am i supposed to learn anything when the answer the book gave me is being marked wrong by a ridiculously idiotic program *that\u2019s made for the book*?!\n\nthe way i see it, this is lazy teaching. *and that\u2019s coming from a teacher*. if you\u2019re a college professor who primarily and regularly assigns your adult students learning software, rather than taking the time to teach the subject material yourself, perhaps it\u2019s time to find another career. \n\ni have four other classes where not only do the professors teach their subject matter in its entirety, without the help of learning software, but two of those classes don\u2019t even require a textbook because the professors create all their own materials. \n\ni\u2019m not paying thousands of dollars a semester to be given software and teach myself. ***do your damn jobs, professors!!!***\n\n\nTL;DR: i fucking hate learning software and the poor work ethic of professors who utilize it.",
  "author": "atticusphere",
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    "fybddgt": {
      "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fybddgt/",
      "text": "Online quizzes are fine to a degree, but only if I don\u2019t have to pay extra and it\u2019s on Moodle and the prof made the questions themselves and they are relevant to what\u2019s being taught ... like I\u2019m cool with up to 20% of a class being online quizzes \n\nBut that Pearson bullshit one of my profs in nursing school made us use was fucked like I had to buy the textbook for one which is no bueno cause the textbook was trash and i already had an anatomy book, then for the second semester after the access to the online stuff ran out we had to pay to get access again which was fucked because I bought ur shit textbook and now you want me to pay another $50",
      "author": "aspie_giraffe",
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    "fwqwad2": {
      "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwqwad2/",
      "text": "I hate how they are tied to your grade and these systems are just busy work, doesn't really teach me anything, and barely functions. I had to use one of Cengage's programs for my college algebra homework (the name escapes me, I apologize) and it didn't even work half the time and it when you got a question wrong, it wouldn't bother to teach you why you got it wrong. You could get the answer right, but because the answer wasn't in the format the program recognized, that question was wrong.\n\nSome are alright, but have irritating downsides. Cengage's Mindtap simulations for some of my Microsoft Server classes have been an amazing help for learning, but holy shit is it slow. You're fucked if your internet goes out in the middle of it or if it's an issue on their end that disrupts your work because it makes you start over.\n\nWhat I'm not a fan of is now that tools for remote learning are getting more and more available and a lot of classes that could be taken in person are now only available as an online course (this was also the case before the pandemic). I love tech and even going for a major in the industry because I have a passion for it, but I'm not a fan of remote learning. I choose face-to-face meetings on campus anytime over trying to learn from home on some shotty software.",
      "author": "KaOsPest",
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        "fwqyoef": {
          "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwqyoef/",
          "text": "i had forgotten about the hell that is cengage until now, lol. mymathlab isn\u2019t any better, either. it\u2019s a good idea in theory, it\u2019s just abysmal in practice.",
          "author": "atticusphere",
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        "fwqvyak": {
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          "text": "yes, exactly!!",
          "author": "atticusphere",
          "created": 1593728827,
          "upvotes": 2,
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        }
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    "fwqac9q": {
      "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwqac9q/",
      "text": "Honestly schools need to force professors to develop their own stuff using the campus learning management software  (canvas, moodle, blackboard, etc.) because literally all of the third party things are horrendously bad and way too expensive. Like even blackboard (which is atrocious) was better than the best of those.",
      "author": "squirrel8296",
      "created": 1593718178,
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        "fwqbqs7": {
          "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwqbqs7/",
          "text": "i am in complete agreement!! if elementary, middle, and high school teachers have to develop their own curriculum, why do college professors get to skirt by with learning software and stolen content? \n\nblackboard is atrocious, i couldn\u2019t agree more. i wish more of it worked on my phone, even the app is only partially functional. hopefully canvas will be better! even google classroom works better than blackboard, lol.",
          "author": "atticusphere",
          "created": 1593718855,
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            "fwqc81c": {
              "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwqc81c/",
              "text": "When I transfered to the school I ended up graduating from they used canvas (and the professors basically had to use all their own materials) and literally it was so much better",
              "author": "squirrel8296",
              "created": 1593719080,
              "upvotes": 3,
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                "fwqcr1l": {
                  "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwqcr1l/",
                  "text": "that is the best thing i\u2019ve heard all day, thank youuuu!! <3",
                  "author": "atticusphere",
                  "created": 1593719333,
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    "fwq0r0m": {
      "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwq0r0m/",
      "text": "Ugh I HAAAAAAAAAATE mymathlab. The first time I tried taking college algebra it was the bane of my existence. I feel your pain, that professor taught exactly the way yours did, and it was entirely online without a lecture component. Basically gave me a set of mymathlab to work through every night and then hoped I\u2019d do well on the tests. I did not. This upcoming fall I\u2019m due to take stats, my first math class in... 3 years, and I hope that it goes better.",
      "author": "HeyImNyx",
      "created": 1593713620,
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        "fwq19ke": {
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          "text": "if it was something as basic as algebra, i might be a little more okay with it. actually, no, because the program is shit, lol. but yeah, i\u2019m running into the same issue. i had a 99% in the class until the midterm. she copy pasted questions from some random book (not the one we *bought* for the course), and marked me down for the most arbitrary nonsense, despite having answered the questions correctly - with added math drawings and other things. i got a 77% on the midterm. i\u2019m so beyond pissed. \n\nthis community college offers surveys on each course towards the end of the semester, you better believe i\u2019ll be giving the most honest and biting survey i ever have in my entire time at this damn school.",
          "author": "atticusphere",
          "created": 1593713864,
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            "fwq1ney": {
              "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwq1ney/",
              "text": "I literally failed every exam in that class. I mean sure you could chalk some of that up to me being critically depressed, but not all of it. My school hasn\u2019t released fall syllabi yet so I don\u2019t have a clue if it\u2019s going to be the same or not. I\u2019ve transferred universities since that incident so I can only hope.",
              "author": "HeyImNyx",
              "created": 1593714046,
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                "fwq26np": {
                  "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwq26np/",
                  "text": "not at all, that\u2019s just poor teaching. if you\u2019re failing every exam, the professor clearly isn\u2019t doing their job. best of luck to you, i hope you have an exceptionally better experience at your new uni!",
                  "author": "atticusphere",
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    "fwpzbao": {
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      "text": "Hit or miss with online stuff. If the professor cares, it can be great. In one now that she made 4 to 12 videos per lecture that are 5 to 14 minutes each. Honestly, it is usually 6 videos with about an hour and some change of content. Very easy to watch a video, then watch a YouTube video, and swap back and forth. (It is very boring material, so can't focus long however well she teaches, which is pretty great)\n\nHowever, when you get told to buy a Pearson subscription and they upload a five minute video going over what to read and some links to resources, I want to scream. That is not worth the money. I could have done that and taken a test to place higher in math when entering the college. That is penalizing people for staying at the university to learn. Ridiculous.",
      "author": "Kyro0098",
      "created": 1593712930,
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        "fwq011w": {
          "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwq011w/",
          "text": "see, that sounds like a dream to me. i would much rather watch a number of different lecture videos than be forced to self-teach on a platform that i have to pay for - in addition to the tuition and other fees i\u2019m already paying. \n\ni completely agree with your second paragraph, too. if i wanted to pay for materials outside of what i\u2019m already paying, i could have - would have - done that on my own time, and tested out of the class completely. \n\ni really can\u2019t wait to transfer out of this school. it was amazing when i first started, but has gone downhill quickly over the last year or so. i\u2019ll be doing my bachelor\u2019s completely online, i truly hope it\u2019ll be different at uni.",
          "author": "atticusphere",
          "created": 1593713275,
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            "fwq23h2": {
              "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwq23h2/",
              "text": "Yeah. It really showed the quality of the university this past semester when everything went online for Covid. Finally shows why I am not going to a community college. Most of my professors are the first paragraph rather than the second. The transition was only rough for one class, and one professor redid his entire plan to make online easier. Of course, one just gave us a massive project and said go, but there is always that one that just doesn't care.",
              "author": "Kyro0098",
              "created": 1593714256,
              "upvotes": 3,
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                "fwq2s40": {
                  "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwq2s40/",
                  "text": "that\u2019s for sure! i almost stayed at this community college to get a third associate\u2019s so i could start my bachelor\u2019s at the junior level...but that quickly turned from \u2018no\u2019 to \u2018oh heeellllllll nah!\u2019 over these last six weeks dealing with these programs and professors who simply don\u2019t care. \n\ni will never understand the human trash cans that join the education sector just to...not do anything? like, why? is it because education is one of the only careers that you can successfully get by with doing the barest minimum? \n\none of my co-teachers at the middle school i work at is the same way; he\u2019s lazy as hell and hardly ever lifts a finger to do anything himself. he doesn\u2019t even create his own curriculum - our principal does it for him, just to shut his whiny ass up and keep the class moving. i report him every chance i get.",
                  "author": "atticusphere",
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                    "fwq39ty": {
                      "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwq39ty/",
                      "text": "Oh gosh, in middle school, my pe (physical education) teacher would literally spend a day teaching us a sport, then he would spend the next four days in his office. He would look out at us every now and again, but unless someone came up to the office with an injury, he was not coming out of the office.",
                      "author": "Kyro0098",
                      "created": 1593714810,
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                        "fwq4cr3": {
                          "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwq4cr3/",
                          "text": "ugh, that just infuriates me. it seems as though teachers like me who are in it for the students are becoming fewer and farther between. i actually reported my son\u2019s pe teacher for the same reason. he was being bullied so bad in her class and she\u2019d just let it happen. he got so sick of it that he just stopped going. he finally told me what was going on and i immediately called hr. she \u2018retired\u2019 this year unexpectedly, and i\u2019m not entirely sure it\u2019s unrelated.",
                          "author": "atticusphere",
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                            "fwq6f21": {
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                              "text": "Yeah, I am just glad he only taught two grades. It is a smaller school and the other teachers cared more. Funnily enough, he only had a few people get something sprained or bruised. However, my high school teacher who really cares and taught us how to warm up, cool down, and do some first aid was the one who had the big injuries. The normal teacher too, not the one for the sporty kids who did crazy stuff. One kid broke his leg running. No idea how. He wasn't near anything or anyone, but suddenly, he was down. Another one tried to turn and just rolled over instead of stopping during a modified version of hockey. Ankle swelled up and had to get crutches.",
                              "author": "Kyro0098",
                              "created": 1593716280,
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                                "fwq7nox": {
                                  "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwq7nox/",
                                  "text": "well of course if he isn\u2019t doing anything with the class after the first day teaching a sport, they\u2019re not gonna get hurt because they\u2019ll usually just dick around, putting low to no effort in what they\u2019re doing. the best pe classes were the ones i got hurt in, lol, because they pushed us to actually put more effort in and tied participation into the grade. \n\nthat\u2019s wild that someone broke their leg just running, though!! i did tear my meniscus simply tripping over baby furniture, though; the human body is so strange. equal parts fragile and ridiculously resilient, lol.",
                                  "author": "atticusphere",
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    "fwpwyzp": {
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      "text": "I dropped a class purely because they use my math lab. Turns out Pearson is a horrific company and they can\u2019t be reached by phone at all. They kept charging me $50 for months after dropping the class despite 2 attempts to reach someone via their online ticketing system. I HATE them. Look up consumer reviews for them online... many feel similarly. \n\nI think some self paced programs are ok, like Hawkes, but others are definitely garbage.",
      "author": "plsmakeit",
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        "fwpxsa5": {
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          "text": "oh i agree, pearson is absolute garbage, as is norton and most others. i\u2019ve yet to come across any of these programs that actually taught me anything, or worked the way they were supposed to. \n\nif i signed up for a course that said \u201cself-paced\u201d, i\u2019d probably be down with it. but when the syllabus says \u201cthis course is not self-paced\u201d just to be forced to teach myself the material, i get irate. there\u2019s plenty of free courses i can take if i want to self-teach, i don\u2019t pay this much out of pocket to essentially be told \u201csink or swim, bitch!\u201d",
          "author": "atticusphere",
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    "fwpp21b": {
      "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwpp21b/",
      "text": "I hate people who assume because my generation grew up around technology that we all love online and remote working. It's fucking shit and I'd rather drop out than do it. I used to love class when it was in person because I was learning something, now it's hours of hell all wrapped up into my laptop.",
      "author": "NoChannel1",
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        "fwppqkd": {
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          "text": "online classes can be amazing when taught by professors who actually care to devote the work necessary to make a *good* online course. i only went on campus for maaaaaybe three classes for my second associate\u2019s degree; i feel i learn more when not bogged down by a classroom full of students who don\u2019t listen to the professor and ask questions that have already been answered, thus making a large portion of class time useless to anyone who was actually paying attention. these two professors that i mentioned here just sit back and let the programs do the teaching. my math teacher has not given us a single piece of material from herself, it\u2019s all website links and lectures from a professor at a university across the country. i can\u2019t stand that shit. i don\u2019t get why i can\u2019t use materials from other students because that\u2019s \u201cplagiarism\u201d even if i cite it properly, when professors can devise an entire course based off of someone else\u2019s materials with no consequence.\n\nedit to add: the limitless programs and stolen materials from other professors turn a 1.5 hour, twice a week on-campus session into a 20 hour a week online course.",
          "author": "atticusphere",
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            "fwpqijk": {
              "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwpqijk/",
              "text": "It's lazy teaching and they're trying to use a blanket statement of 'all young people are tech savvy' to excuse it. Just because we can work a smart phone doesn't mean we can magically teach ourselves higher level mathematics on our own. Plagiarism rules can be ridiculous at times. I had a professor tell me that I plagiarized because I wrote about the same idea in a paper that inspired me in my own words.",
              "author": "NoChannel1",
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                "fwpqncq": {
                  "link": "/r/CollegeRant/comments/hjzipp/i_hate_college_learning_software_with_every_fiber/fwpqncq/",
                  "text": "i completely agree!! and yeah, plagiarism rules are the worst. i\u2019m sorry you had that experience, professors like that are the worst.",
                  "author": "atticusphere",
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    "hkt1itb": {
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      "text": "Mine loves to spew bullshit from the book that was assigned reading the day before, and makes you mindlessly click through fucking inquizitive all day as a crutch. I should've dropped the damn class",
      "author": "Ratmole13",
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