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add economic and geografical potential to the OEO #1973

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madbkr opened this issue Nov 20, 2024 · 5 comments
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add economic and geografical potential to the OEO #1973

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madbkr commented Nov 20, 2024

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As mentioned in #1968 both economic and geographical potential are terms used in a definition in the new tasks module. Since this not a trivial concept I would like it to be added to the OEO.

@stap-m added some thoughts:
economic potential would be a "parent" concept for economic stock and flow potential. We could think about either making economic potential alternative label to both concepts, or introduce it as equivalent parent class that has both subtypes as children.
geographical potential is probably a special type of theoretical (stock or flow) potential.
I fear, we'll have to find sensible ways to define smart parallel hierarchies, if we want to introduce these classes.

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These are the definitions I proposed:
economic potential is the potential for economic development.
(we already have economic stock potential and economic flow potential in the oeo)

geographical potential is the potential given by the physical location.

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Are economic potential and flow potential really able to be used synonymously?

I'm not sure, if I understand flow potential correctly:
flow potential has a sub class that is named economic flow potential, which indicates that there are non economical flow potentials such as theoretical flow potential.
If we choose to make economic potential an alternative label or even parent class of flow potential it might narrow the scope of flow potential.

As for geographical potential:
Maybe we could model it as an instance of both theoretical flow and stock potential?
Or as a sub class of potential related to both terms through an axiom?
I could imagine using something like
geographical potential has part theoretical flow potential and geographical potential has part theoretical stock potential

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madbkr commented Nov 25, 2024

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Maybe it is helpful to provide the current hierarchy and the definitions of flow potential and stock potential:

A flow potential is a potential of an input or output of a process, per time unit.

An economic flow potential is a type of flow potential that identifies the proportion of the technological potential that can be utilised economically (based on economic boundary conditions).

A stock potential is a potential of the stock of a source or sink.

An economic stock potential is a type of stock potential that identifies the proportion of the technological potential that can be utilised economically (based on economic boundary conditions).

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madbkr commented Nov 27, 2024

I don't think there is any good way to add economic potential. The problem is that there is both an economic version of flow potential and stock potential where economic potential wants to be the parent but they have to be children of the regular flow potential or stock potential. Maybe we could review the definition where economic potential came up - and change it to refer to both economic flow potential and economic stock potential?

We could make an geographical flow potential and an geographical stock potential - make it fit with the others.

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stap-m commented Nov 29, 2024

I don't think there is any good way to add economic potential. The problem is that there is both an economic version of flow potential and stock potential where economic potential wants to be the parent but they have to be children of the regular flow potential or stock potential. Maybe we could review the definition where economic potential came up - and change it to refer to both economic flow potential and economic stock potential?

I agree. We could think about adding economic potential as alternative label to both the economic flow and stock potential. But would not solve the problem which kind of potential is meant in the context. Can you check #1891 for the context @madbkr ?

We could make an geographical flow potential and an geographical stock potential - make it fit with the others.

Again, the context would be helpful.
The def of potential already refers to a spatial region. Maybe this is what is meant, or the theoretical potentials!?

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madbkr commented Dec 3, 2024

These are the definitions where these terms are most prominent:

Determine geographical potential is an action specification that describes the calculation of the total geographical area available for wind farm development after applying exclusion criteria and considering spatial constraints.
Calculate economic potential is an action specification that describes the determination of the total economic potential of the available area under a maximum threshold LCOE value.

To me this doesn't really tell if we are talking about flow or stock potential. It sounds like it would mean both.

@stap-m stap-m added this to the oeo-release-2.8.0 milestone Dec 6, 2024
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