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ACCC & DSB | CDR Implementation Call Agenda & Meeting Notes | 14th of July 2022
When: Weekly every Thursday at 3pm-4.30pm AEST
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- 5 min will be allowed for participants to join the call.
We acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the various lands on which we work today and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people participating in this call.
We pay our respects to Elders past, present and emerging, and recognise and celebrate the diversity of Aboriginal peoples and their ongoing cultures and connections to the lands and waters of Australia.
The Consumer Data Right Implementation Calls are recorded for note taking purposes. All recordings are kept securely, as are the transcripts which may be made from them. No identifying material shall be provided without the participant's consent. Participants may [email protected] should they have any further questions or wish to have any material redacted from the record.
By participating in the Consumer Data Right Implementation Call you agree to the Community Guidelines. These guidelines intend to provide a safe and constructive space for members to discuss implementation topics with other participants and members of the ACCC and Data Standards Body.
Type | Topic | Update |
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Standards | Version 1.17.0 Published | Link to change log here |
Standards | Version 1.18.0 to incorporate changes from Maintenance Iteration 11 | Timing to be confirmed |
Maintenance | Maintenance Iteration 12 | Planned to commence next week on the 20th of July 2022 |
Community Guidelines | Updates to the Community Guidelines to Version 1.3 | Link to the Community Guidelines |
TSY Newsletter | To subscribe to TSY Newsletter | Link here |
DSB Newsletter | To subscribe to DSB Newsletter | Link here |
TSY Newsletter | 1st of July 2022 | View in browser here |
DSB Newsletter | 8th of July 2022 | View in browser here |
Consultation | Normative Standards Review (2021) | No Close Date Link to consultation |
Consultation | Decision Proposal 229 - CDR Participant Representation | Placeholder: no close date Link to consultation |
Noting Paper | Noting Paper 255 - Approach to Telco Sector Standards | Link to consultation |
Consultation | Decision Proposal 256 - Telco Endpoints Feedback closes: 5th of August 2022 |
Link to consultation |
Consultation | Decision Proposal 257 - Customer Data Payloads for Telco Feedback closes: 5th of August 2022 |
Link to consultation |
Noting Paper | Noting Paper 258 - Independent Information Security Review | Link to consultation |
Workshop | DSB - Energy Sector: Historical Data Sharing - Workshop | Link to Registration: Eventbrite |
Provides a weekly update on the activities of each of the CDR streams and their stream of work
Organisation | Stream | Member |
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ACCC | CDR Register | Emma Harvey |
ACCC | CTS | Andrea Gibney |
DSB | CX Standards | Amy Nussbaumer |
DSB | Technical Standards - Energy | Hemang Rathod |
DSB | Technical Standards - Register | Ivan Hosgood |
DSB | Technical Standards - Banking | Mark Verstege |
DSB | Technical Standards - Telecommunications | Brian Kirkpatrick |
DSB | Technical Standards - Engineering | James Bligh |
None this week.
Questions will be received by the community via WebEx chat before the questions are opened to the floor. Participants can submit questions outside of the CDR Implementation Call to the CDR Support Portal.
In regards to topics for questions, we ask the participants on the call to consider the Community Guidelines when posing questions to the subject matter experts.
Ticket # | Question | Answer |
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823 | Comment on an article: https://cdr-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360004324176-Data-Holder-sector-identifier-uri-Support#comment_360000422056 | This issue is being covered through change request 484 and is being worked through the standards maintenance process |
1604 | Decision Proposal 209 had the following statement, which indicates that ID Tokens returned from the Authorisation End Point do NOT need to be encrypted: ID Token Encryption changed from MUST to MAY o ID Tokens MUST be signed and MAY be encrypted when returned to a Data Recipient Software Product from both the Authorisation End Point and Token End Point. However, the published standards indicate that ID Tokens returned from the Authorisation End Point MUST be encrypted: https://consumerdatastandardsaustralia.github.io/standards/#tokens Please clarify which is correct? |
This is in regards to the move to Authorisation Code Flow. In that instance there is no longer the same need to issue the ID Token as a detached signature. We retain signing and encryption of the Hybrid Flow. |
1616 | As part of the Security Information Profile changes required by Sept 16th (captured in the Future Date obligations section of the Consumer Data Standards), there is mention that DHs will no longer support refresh token cycling. In a further section (under Security Profile -> Tokens) of the Consumer Data Standard, it elaborates on this requirement and states that: "Data Holders MUST NOT cycle refresh tokens (rotation). In other words, Refresh Tokens SHOULD be issued with an "exp" equal to the sharing duration authorised by the Customer." Given the above requirements, what is the expected behaviour of a call made to the token endpoint with a grant_type of "refresh_token"? Mainly, should we issue a new access token, but not return a new refresh_token, in the understanding that the originally issued refresh_token will remain active and can be re-used? Or should we invalidate the current refresh_token and issue a newly minted access_token and a newly minted refresh_token? It is unclear if we are able to create new refresh_tokens and return them? Can you please clarify? |
section 6 of RFC6749 covers this. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6749#section-6 If you are using a grant type of refresh_token to obtain a new access token, the Authorisation Server MAY issue a new refresh token. Given refresh token cycling is not supported going forwards you would omit or replay the refresh token. You may want to validate this with you IAM provider to understand how they support this. |
1617 | In the Future Dated obligations section of the Consumer Data Standards, for the obligation coming into effect on the 16th Sept 2022 (titled Information Security profile), there is an entry which reads as follows: "Enforces additional requirements for authorisation code, token and request object use" We are unable to determine exactly what is meant by this requirement? Can you please elaborate? When we read the Advanced FAPI specification, it is unclear how the above line relates to the specification. Could you please help us understand this requirement? |
This appears to be a transposition error from the July 4th obligations. Phase 2 does include enhancements with FAPI 1.0 adoption that also provide requirements such as mandating PAR that further enforce how request objects are used. Phase 2 also allows for Authorisation Code Flow support that changes token usage. |
1627 | We request this field ‘dailyCharge’ within EnergyPlanControlledLoad to be made ‘optional’ as In data standards this field is marked as ‘mandatory’. However, 'dailyCharge' may/ may not be applicable for Controlled load rate types Please find the reference: https://www.canstarblue.com.au/electricity/controlled-load-tariff-can-save-money/ Note: Similar to South Australia, there is only one controlled load option, and it’s almost always referred to as a ‘dedicated circuit’ on electricity price fact sheets. Additionally, there are no extra supply charges for this tariff. |
For all changes to the Consumer Data Standards we ask that you raise this as part of the Standards Maintenance repository: https://github.com/ConsumerDataStandardsAustralia/standards-maintenance |
1630 | As per CDS for FAPI 1.0 phase 2, "Authorisation request data MUST only be accepted using PAR" and "Data Holders MUST reject authorisation request containing "request" parameter". In order to accept only PAR, we need to always include 'require_pushed_authorization_requests' parameter in the Client Metadata as per https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9126. But in the CDS v1.17.0 (https://consumerdatastandardsaustralia.github.io/standards/#client-registration), section Client Registration under 'Client Metadata' this parameter (require_pushed_authorization_requests) is not present. Please check and confirm our understanding. |
"require_pushed_authorization_requests" is an authorisation server metadata parameter hosted by the Data Holder under their well-known OpenID Provider Configuration End Point. This parameter is not part of the client registration negotiation. |
View a number of informative and useful links in the Consumer Data Standards Guide on Information Links.