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More noise in vorticity #4131
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Are we sure this is noise? It looks rather smooth, perhaps an adjustment from the initial condition? A movie could help, if it is growing in time or something. |
Or also if you increase the resolution and the structure doesn't change that would also suggest that it's not noise. |
I can run another version of the above simulation at a higher resolution to see if that resolves problems. What I am trying to understand though is noise in vorticity in one of my more complex simulations. Below is a plot of the temperature and vorticity fields of my simulation of the Southern Ocean. It is a channel model with a Gaussian Ridge at the bottom, westerly wind forcing and a strong temperature relaxation at the surface. The plot is taken from a snapshot 40 years after the initial condition. The temperature fields looks quite smooth, but vorticity is a bit of a mess.
I'll see if I can get a more simple example that exhibits this behavior, just wanted to raise the current issue as soon as I could. |
I have a new version of the simulation that incorporates some of the changes mentioned by Greg and other changes that still exhibits some noise in vorticity. After 1 year, here are the temperature and vorticity fields at the surface. The grid resolution is 1/4 of a degree and the vorticity field is quite noisy. This could be due to the coarse resolution relative to the true lengthscale of dynamics - we expect a detailed submesoscale field to develop at high resolutions here. We are also using 9th order WENOVectorInvariant so the potential for a very rich velocity field is present but the resolution may be insufficient. In simulations with a 5th order advection scheme, the vorticity is much less noisy. Of most concern is the high vorticity values at the Southern Boundary. Below I plot the raw u and v values, also at the surface and after 1 year and can see strange behavior near the Southern boundary. The wall at the South is an idealization and hence is not of interest in our study. However, the high velocities there significantly increase the maximum velocity and increase the computational expense under the CFL condition. A key step therefore is to change the simulation so these detailed dynamics at the Southern boundary don't occur. I have a parallel simulation running at 1/16 of a degree and, though it is early in its integration, we see more detailed dynamics appear immediately in the South. We have strong negative temperature forcing in the South, could these dynamics be due to convection? Here is the code:
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For sure, this is coarse, you can tell just by looking at it. You can make out individual pixels by eye. |
The following model (an even more simplified version of the model in a previous issue) exhibits strange small grid-scale oscillations in vorticity.
Here is a plot of vorticity after 3 months at the surface.
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